Minute Book 3: 1729

Cornell title: Commission for Indian Affairs (Albany, N.Y.). Indian Affairs Pamphlets,

Volume 1: Minutes of the Commission of Indian Affairs – Albany, New York, 1722-1732 – 1220

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1729 In Chronological Order.

            There do not appear to be duplicate entries for 1729. The originals are in chronological order except that a second copy of the conference between Governor Montgomery and the Six Nations and their Allies held the previous year, in October 1728, is inserted after the entries for October 1729 (pages 299a-309a.) It has been omitted here.

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[There are no entries for January 1729.]

[0566] 281 [Wraxall mentions this p. 176.]

Albany the 22d Febry 1728/9



Philip Livingston

Henry Holland

[Jo]h: Cuyler

Peter Van Brugh

Evert Bancker

Rutger Bleecker

Evert Wendell

Nicolas Bleecker

Abraham Cuyler

[Joh].s Roseboom

Barent Sanders                        Whereas It has been represented in publick

Proposition to his Excy John Montgomerie Esq.r

Governour of New York &c by the Sachims of the 6 nations

how Dangerous the Selling of Rum & other Strong Liquor

is in their Castles and that great mischiefe may Ensue

from it they have Straineously desired that it may be

Prohibited, that no Christians may bring or Carry any Rum

among them in their Countrey for that will one way or Other

Create a Quarrell between them and our people; which

request has been granted them by his said Excy. And w.ch

the Sd. Indians have now lately repeated to the Comm:rs of the

Indian Affairs at Albany. Wherefore the said Comm.rs

have thought fit for his Majesties Service to Notifie to

All Traders and others, not to Convey Transport or Carry

any Rum or Other Strong Liquor at or near the upper Castles

of the Five Nations (Oswego only Excepted) on Penalty as

they Shall Answer the Contrary on their perill for Such

Contempt in disturbing the publick peace of this Province

Att a meeting of the Comm:rs of Indian

Affairs at Albany the 10th March 1728/9 [Not in Wraxall.]

Hendrick & Arie Indians Present


Ph. Livingston

Henry Holland

Peter Van Brugh

[St.] Groesbeck

[H]ar. Wendell

Evert Wendell

[N]ich: Bleeker

{?]art Sanders

{A]br. Cuyler

[Jo].s Roseboom

[Jo]h.s Lansingh          That three Indians of those who now live at Skohere

w.th Some other of Sundry Nations being Sent for by

Lowrence Claese: who being Come Told them


Wee have now Sent for you on

Sundry Complaints which wee have from Time to Time heard

of you: of your ill behaviour towards your brethren the

Christians at Skohere, And all wherever you have

Lived you have done mischieffe; Who are apprehensive that

Some great Misfortune Shall Ensue from it and Create a


[0567] 281a

Misunderstanding between you & them; which Ought to

be Prevented in Time, Wee have w:th our Brethren the Mohoggs

who our nearest neighbours Lived in peace & quietness

together Time out of mind (two of the Sachims are here present

to be witnesses to what we Say) It seems as if you have a mind

to be the Promoters of mischiefe, and are bent to brake the

Firm Ty and Friendship w.ch is between us & the 6 Nations

which has So often been renewed between us. Last year youe

Murthered one of your brethren at Skohere, which has been

kept Secret and is not come to Our Govern.rs Ears; in Expecta[ti]on

that for the Future you would behave your Selves better; and

for that reason is past by, but this blood lies yet on Earth

and will Cry for Revenge, Wherefore wee desire you to remove

your Settlements in the woods beyond any Christian

Plantation, that no mischiefe may Follow from your

Insolent behaviour towards your brethren of the Six

Nations. So that what mischiefe be done for the Future

Shall be demanded off your hands

Answer of the Sd. Indians

Wee acknowledge that some mischiefe has been done

by Those who Live among us at Skohere but all that is done

is generally Imputed to us, tho’ wee be Innocent; And

Since your are desirous that wee Should Remove, Wee

Promise to go to our native Countrey Cayouge and Oneyde

and not to Settle Alone on the Christian Settlements as you

Propose, for then Some of our People might Take revenge for

Our banishment The Murther Committed at Skohere

has been Done in drink, and which Wee ought to have reconciled

before now; Which Shall be done by the Sachims in due time

The Misdemeanours that particular Indians Commit,

Wee think ought not to break the Covenant Chain, but

Ought by the Sachims to be made up

[0568] 282 [Wraxall mentions this p. 176.]

By the Commissioners of Indian Affairs at

Albany the 14.o April 1729

Instructions for Lowrence Claese the Interp:er

Whereas we have received advice that the French

at Canada make preperations to Attack the building at Oswego

this Spring w.th their Indians; which we think is an Affair of

Such Moment to this Province, If the French do Succeed in

their design, That it ought to be prevented in the best manner

possible. We therefore thought fitt to Send you to Acquaint

the Sachims of the Six Nations w:th this undertaking of the

French, and that the demolishing of the Said building will be

Very detrementall to them as well as to us; and Surround them

on all Sides, while they have already had Sufficient proofs of

the French fortifying near them, and that they have on Severall

Places made Fortifications without their Consent. But this

building has been Erected by their Consent and is a Defence &

Security to them, They have Sufficient Instances of the Civil

Treatment and kind behaviour of this Governmt. towards them

for their Security and wellfare for many years past, Wherefore

Wee Cannot doubt but the Sachims will performe their repeated

Promises in Assisting and Defending the Said building

In Case It Should be Attacked, Wherefore you are in the name

of his Excy. Governour Montgomerie to desire the Sachims of

the Six Nations to Send up two Sachims of Each Nation to

go up to Oswego forthwith, and Lye there untill Such Time

as they receive further order from his Excellency and if in Case

The French Should attack the house at Oswego, That they will

Tell the French that the English have built that house by

their orders and upon their ground, and that whomsoever

Should make an Attack to demolish that house that they

Would Deem it an Attempt on their own Castles

[0569] 282a [Not in Wraxall.]

Doctor Kerr                                                     Albany 14.o April 1729

Wee received yours of the 2d March last and it gives

us great Concern that the men are So much out of order & particularly

that they Come So short in those Necessarys you describe to us

in your Letter, you may be well assured that wee at all Times Aim

to do for the best but If through Mismanagemt. they are [finshed]

Wee Cannot think of Confideing in Mankind; Wee have Inclosed

you Letter to the Govern.r who has been pleased to remit us a box

of medicines for you; And wee Send you by the bearere 20 galls

Rum 100 lb. Sugar 25 lb. Rice and 2 lb pepper w.ch wee hope will

Suffice for the present

By the Comm:rs of Indian Affairs at Albany

the 14:th April 1729 [Not in Wraxall.]

Instructions for Casper Ham Johannis Wyngaert

Evert Janse, and Marte Van Buren Jun.r

Whereas you have Severally Engag’d your Selves

before us to Carry up Such Provisions, as wee Shall think proper

to Send up for the use of the Garrison at Oswego, And that Each

Of you are Provided with a Battoe for that purpose; Now

you are hereby required to depart from hence for your Intended

Voyage as Soon as Shall be most Conven.t for the afores.d Service

and make Such dispatch as Can be most reasonably Expect.d

Of you, And in generall you are required to Take Care upon

your receiveing the provisions from Johan Jurch Kast to

deliver the Same in good order to the Commanding Officer

at Oswego, with the Medicines Rum Sugar &c for Doctor

Ker — And Likewise you are to Enquire (upon your return)

what Empty baggs may be at Oswego; and in Case there be

Should be none at Johan Jur. Kasts you are to Leave

Twenty Five of the said baggs to remain there

[0570] 283 [Not in Wraxall.]

Albany the 5o May 1729

A List of sundry Accounts of provisions & Other

Necessarys furnished at Oswego for the use of the Troops at Oswego

together w.th Carriadge of the Save viz.t

Q         S          d

No       1 To Landert Helmer for Carriadge ……………………      £      2          5          —

2  To Dirck Deemons for Ditto …………………………..             1          7          —

3 To Adam Van den Bergh for Ditto ………………….              —         10        6

4 To Wihelmus Van den Bergh for Ladles ………….             —         18        —

5 To Eghbert Bradt for Labour at the battoes ………              1          12        6

6 To Ditto ………… for ditto Labour …………………….             1          6          3

7 To Johannis Lansingh for Provisions &c ………….             3          3          4 3/4

8 To Anthony Bogardus this Son for Labour at the Batoes  3          12        6

9  To Abraham Douw for Provisions &c ………………            1          17        6

10 To Abraham Cuyler for necessarys &c ……………             8          19        7 1/2

11 To Johannis Vyngaert for his Voyage to Oswego            8          8          —

12 To Simon Veeder ………….. for Ditto ……………….             8          12        —

13 To Evert Evertse …………… for Ditto ……………….                        8          12        —

14 To Douw Van Veghten ….. for Ditto ………………             8          16        —

15 To Barnardus Bradt ……….. for Ditto ………………            8          12        —

16 To Joshua Perry …………….. for Ditto ………………            9          —         —

17 To Adam Condee …………… for Ditto ……………..             8          12        —

18 To Evert Janse ………………. for Ditto ………………            8          12        —

19 To Dirck de Garmoy ……… for Ditto  ………………             8          12        —

20 To Johannis Van Veghten.. for Ditto ………………            8          16        —

21 To Jelles de Garmoy ………. for Ditto ……………..             8          12        —

22 To John Foster ………………. for Ditto ………………            8          16        —

23 To Barent Sanders for Nails ……………………………            —         10        6

24 To Abraham Truax for rideing ………………………..            1          7          —

25 To Benjamin Van Vleck for Ditto …………………..             —         12        —

26 To Dirck Lucas & Hich.s Hornick for Carriadge..            4          13        —

27 To Abraham Trueax for Carridge Of provisions .             1          7          —

28 To Harmanus Vedder for Ditto ……………………….            1          7          —

29 To Evert Van Eps for Ditto …………………………….            2          8          —

30 To Jan Wemp for Ditto ……………………………………….       1          15        6

31 To Jelles Fonda for Ditto ……………………………….             —         18        —

32 To Barent Vroman for Ditto ………………………………..       —         9          —

33 To Guysbert Van Brakell for Ditto ……………………….       —         18        —

34 To Robert Dunbarr for his Voyage to Oswego ……….      8          16        —

35 To Johannis Myndertse for Iron Work …………………..      2          —         6

36 To Hon.s D Van Der Heyden for his Voyage to Oswego8          12        —


Carried fouw …..         £


No.                                                                  Brought forward   £

37  To Philip Livingston for Provisions & Presents to Lourence       11        8          8

Claese & to Indians for marking out Land at Oswego

38  To Daniel Danielse for Labour at the Battoes ……………..            2          —         6

39 To Barent A Bradt for his Voyage to Oswego ……………..            8          12        —

40 To Jacob Truax …… for Ditto …………………………………….                        8          4          —

41 To Thomas Harris … for Ditto ……………………………………            8          4          —

42 To Arendt Bradt … for Incidents ………………………………..            1          7          —

43 To Peter Quackenboss Jun for his Voyage to Oswego ….            7          8          —

44 To Gysbert Roseboom for provisions …………………………            3          10        —

45 To Peter Van Alen for his Voyage to Oswego ……………..            6          16        —

46 To Every H. Wendell for Ditto …………………………………..            6          16        —

47 To William Hogan Jun.r for Ditto ……………………………….           6          16        —

48 To Jacobus Vedder for repairing a Waggon at Oswego …            —         4          —

49 To Adam Staring and Frederich Kipman for Carridge …..           —         12        —

50 To Jacob Beekman for Iron Work for Oswego ……………..           2          8          —

51 To Thomas Schoenmaker & Godfrey Reile for Carridge …         1          7          —

52 To William Peters for Carriadge …………………………………..         —         9          —

53 To Arent Danielse for Work at the Battoes ……………………          1          4          —

54 To Johannis Vroman for Labour at the battoes ………………          1          13        —

55 To Adam Faxtieder …. for Carriadge ……………………………          1          7          —

56 To Ditto ………………….. for Ditto ………………………………….         3          12        —

57 To Joseph Clement ….. for Mending Battoes …………………          —         3          —

58 To Juria Taxsteeder for Carriadge ………………………………..          —         18        —

59 To Ditto …………….. for Ditto ………………………………………          1          7          —

60 To Johannis Cloet for Carpenters Work ………………………..          5          11        —

61 To Jacob Visger Mariner for Oacum & other Incidents ….           1          13        9

62 To Harme Grodt for a Voyage to Oswego in 1727 ………..           6          7          6

63 To Thomas Harris for Ditto …………………in 1727 …………..          3          6          —

64 To Luben Van Veghten for Planks ………………………………           1          —         —




Albany 5o May 1729

May it please your Excellency

Wee received the New=

=York Acco:ts from Capt. Holland & in obedience to your

Excy’s Commands have Certified the Same Accordingly

w.ch are Inclosed; as Also a List of the Albany Acc.ts

and the Vouchers thereof, that relate to the Garrison

at Oswego; which wee hope your Excy. will be pleas’d

to Lay before the Assembly in order to have them

Discharged, There are Some Trdders [traders?] Arrived from

Oswego but they bring no News Either in relation to

that place or Canada to Communicate to your Excy

[0572] 284 [Wraxall summary p. 176.]

At a meeting of the Commissioners of the Indian

Affairs In Albany the 7th day of May 1729


[Abr.] Cuyler

[Joh.] Wendell

[Joh.] Cuyler

[R]yer Gerritse

[Ev]ert Wendell

[B]arent Sanders

[Joh.]s Lansingh                      Two Mohawk Indians were Sent down by the Six

Nations as Messengers and Laid down Seven hands of Wamp:m

as a Token  that they were Sent from the Sachims to acquaint

the Govern.t of New York and the Commissioners That they

Expect Every day to the Onondago Castle three hundred Indians

with their Familys (known by the Two Nations of Makinders

and Shahownus) who Sents them word that they will Settle them

=selves among the Six Nations; And therefore Acquaint the Gov.nr

that there will be a generall Meeting of the Six Nations at the

Onondago Castle, within Seven or Eight days, and that they

Expect that the Gov.r will also Send thither one or Two Persons

to be at that Meeting

And further Say that they do also

Acquaint the Govern.m of New York that Some French Indians

Arrived at Onondago Castle from Cachnawagah, and Inform’d

the Onondago Indians that the Gov. of Canada has rais’d an Army

of Two thousand men, which army he goes himselfe to Comand

and by this Time are Sett out upon Some Expedition but what

Or what Place they design to Attack they as yet keep a Secret

to them

Albany the 7:th May 1727

May it Please your Excellency

Since our Last of the 5th Inst Wee

have reced the Inclosed Express of which we Send the Copy in ord.r

that your Excy. May peruse the Same

Wee have thereupon this day dispatchd

Lowrence Claesen the Interpreter w.th an Assistant to go to the

Onondago Castle and be at that Meeting as the Indians request

of your Excy in order that he may there Act in your Excy’s name

We have also Sent a Letter by him to Capt Price at oswego Informing

him therein of the Substance of this Intelligence that he may be

the better Enabled to be upon his Guard Wee further referr

your Excy to Col.o Myndert Schuyler by whom this goes

And remain with great Submission

[0573] 284a [Wraxall mention p. 176.]

Albany the 8th May 1729

Instructions for Lowrence Claesen the Interpreter

Whereas Wee have reced an Information

from Two Mohawk Indians that they Expect three hundred

Indians w.th their Familys (known by the Two Nations vizt.

Mahikinders and Shouhownees) at the Onondago Castle to

Treat w.th our Six Nation about Setleing themselves and their

Familys Among our sd Nations, and upon that Acco.t our

Sachims have requested his Excy Govern.r Montgomerie and

the Comm:rs to Send one or Two Persons to be at the Onondago

Castle at Said Meeting

You are therefore upon your departure

from hence to go in the name of his Excy Govern.r Montgomerie to

the Onondago Castle to be there at the Meeting of the Said Indians

and then and there to represent his Said Excy and to Engage

the Said Indians to Incorporate themselves among our Six

Nations in the best Manner you Can, and to Invite Two

Sachims of Each of the aforesd. two Nations to Come here and Enter

into the Coven.t Chain, according to the Promises they made upon

their last Treaty with his Excy.

And Whereas the aforesaid Two

Mohawk Indians have further advised us that the Govern:t

of Canada has Sett out w:th an Army of Two thousand men

Therefore if upon your arrivall, or dureing your Stay at the

Onondago Castle you Can be Informed that it is the Intention of

the aforesaid Army to Attack the Garrison at Oswego; You are

in the name of his Excy Gover.or Montgomerie to request the

Sachims of the Six Nations to aid and assist Capt John Price

the officer now Commanding there to Prevent Such an Attack

and whatever Charges may Accrew on that Acco.t Wee will Certify

the Same So as you may be Reimbursed by the Province of

New York, and you are Likewise to Forward the Letter Sent by

you herewith to Capt. Jno. Price at Oswego as Soon as possible

[0574]285                  [See Wraxall p. 176 for general summary,]

Albany the 8th May 1729

Capt.n John Price


Wee have received an Information from Two Mohawks

Indians who Came here upon the following Errand to Advise us

that there has been some French Indians at Onondago Castle, who

then Told our Indians there that the Governour of Canada has rais’d

an Army of Two thousand men w:th whom he goes himselfe to Comand

Which Army our Said Informers believe are by this Time Sett our

but upon what Design or account our Informers are as yet Strang.res

to Therefore wee have thought it highly necessary (as well on acc.t

of the Safety and Preservation of the Garrison now under your

Command, w.ch is our Constant Care, as also the Affection & Zeale We

bear for the Province in generall ) to desire that you’l be very

Watchfull, not only in respect of the Fear of an Enemy but

Solicitous to Inform your Selfe and Enquire if possible into the

Design and Intent of the French Governour and his Army

as also to Learn If you Can what Course they Intend to Steer

And If you can obtain their Intentions to Write us accordingly

Att a Meeting of the Comm:rs of the

Indian Affairs in Albany the 14.th May 1729


Phil: Livingston

Hn. Holland

John Cuyler

Pt.r Vn Brugh

Abr. Cuyler

Ryer Gerritse

Evert Wendell

Joh.s Lansingh

Bar.t Sanders                          This afternoon return’d from Canada the Two Indian

Messengers (in Seven days) Sent thither by the Comissioners

to Enquire what Intelligence and Preperations are makeing

there for an Expedition, the Said Messengers relate that

when they arrived at Cachnawage (the preying Indians Castle

They Stayed there Four days, And Enquired for news but

at first Could hear nothing. at Last they mett one of their

brethren, who asked them what their Errand was they relying

on his Fidelity resolved to discover it, and Told him the[y] Came

to Enquire for News; on which he answered I thought So, and

now you have Found the Man who Shall Tell you the Truth

The French have made great Preperations for an Expedition

Fifty Battoes are ready made at Montreal and one hundred


[0575] 285a

Below that place, and Provisions for an Army; but We know

not yet where the Attempt Shall be made, (it’s yet a Secret to us)

but the Govern.r is Expected Every day from Quebeck who will on

his Arrivall, Inform us what place he Shall Attack, but

We Conclude It will Certainly be Either Ag.t Oswego or albany

The said Messengers Told the Indian the Gov.r of Canada & the

French King are very proud why are they so uneasy & ill

Interrupt & Prohibitt the Trade So Strictly to make an Attack

on the English for it, why do they not Permitt the Trade all over

while It’s Peace. Our king is not so Uneasy and our Govern.r

Lives amicably w.th us and we w.th him, he never doth hinder us

to Carry on our Trade where we please, why will your Govern.r

Prohibitt the Trade, the Indian Answerd our Govern.r Can’t

help it for he is oblidged to Obey the orders he receives from

the King, he has Sent Messengers thrice to Oswego to desire

the English to Leave that Place but It Seems they bid defiance to

the French and refuse to retire from thence the Fourth Time

he will Send them no warning, but they will most Certainly

Take it by Violence and Force of Arms, and Force them to

go from his Land and Streams, he Claims all the Land from

whence the Water Vents into the Large river, and will keep it

the English have only the Land from whence the Water Vents

into their Countrey — The French King is much Surprised that

there Comes no more beaver from Canada and has Enquired

into the occasion of it. he is Informed that Large Quantitys

go to the English and has given Strict orders that none Shall

be Sent to them by the way of Oswego or the Corlaers Lake

and that the Governour of Canada has orders to Prevent

It in the best Manner he Can

[0576] 286

Albany the 16:th May 1729

May It Please your Excy

By the Enclosed Minutes your Exlcy

May See that the two Indian Messengers of whom we Acquaint.d

your Excly. in our Last we Sent from hence have made a Speedy

return, and you have Likewise an Exact narration of their

Intelligence upon their Correspondence w.th the Indian they

mett, which Comes very Conformable to the Precautions in his

Excly. Gov.r Burnet’s Letter to you, and therefore we Can in all

Appeareancy Construe the Indians Information no otherwise

(Since It’s So Agreeable w.th all the news we have heard) than

that there is an Expedition Intended by the French against the

English Therefore we thought It highly necessary to

Send the Enclosed w.th all Expedition to your Excly. And we are

glad since it is So that It Comes at this Seasonable Time when

the Legislators are Convened, whom we doubt not but will use

Such Measures, as to them Shall Seem most proper for Our

Preservation in Case of an Attack

To His Excellency John Montgomerie Esq.r


The Memoriall of the Comm:rs

of Indian Affairs at Albany

Humbly Representeth

That whereas Ever Since

the Erecting the house at Oswego, the Garrison there has been

Supplied in a very Troublesome and Chargeable Manner

And since Severall Persons have propos’d

to Some of the Comm:rs to undertake to Supply that Garrison w:th

Provisions. If it was Publickly Lett out to the Cheapest and

Lowest Undertaker

Therefore It is the humble Opinion of

your Memor.ists That If it was So Lett out for a Certain Time


[0577] 286a

And upon Such Terms as the Legislators Shall think

most Proper; It would not only Prove a benefitt to the Province

in gen.ll but even of great Ease to those who now have the Manag:t


All which is humbly

Submitted to your Excy. w.th the rest of

the Legislators Mature Consderation

this 22d May 1729 [Not in Wraxall.]

A Further List of sundry Accounts of Provisions and

Other Necessarys furnished for the use of the Troops at

Oswego; and other Services together w.th Carriadge thereof

as may appear by the Vouchers  22 May 1729


1  … To Evert Janse for his Voyage to Oswego ……  £          5″        15″      6

2  … To Casper Ham for Ditto …………………………..               5″        15″      6

3  … To Mark Van Buren for Ditto …………………….               5″        15″      6

4  … To Johannis Wyngaert for Ditto …………………               5″        15″      6

5  … To Dirch Hun for Ladles ……………………………              1″        8″        —

6  … To Mr. Johannis Roseboom for Incidents …….              1″        2″        6

7  … To Mr. Johannis Cuyler … for Ditto …………….              3″        6″        9

8  … To William Barret for repairing Battoes ………              –”        6″        —

9  … To Arent Danielse for Ditto ………………………..              –”        3″        —

10 .. To Sanders Glen for rideing ……………………….              –”        9″        —

11 .. To Andries Van Petten for Ditto ………………….             –”        9″        —

12 .. To Jan Bapt.s Van Eps for Provisions rideing &c          2″        19″      6


£          33″      5″        9


Albany the 22d May 1729

[Not in Wraxall.]

May It Please your Excellency

Our last was the 16:th Ins.t Since w.ch we

have reced. no Intelligence from Canada Inclosed your Excy. has

a Memoriall (setting forth as wee are of Opinion) an Easier method

for Supplying the Garrison at Oswego w.th Provisions than formerly

which upon your Excy’s recomendation we hope will Take Effect

We Also Inclosed Send your Excy. a List of

Further Acc:ts with their Vouchers which we begg your Excy. will

be Pleased to Lay before the Assembly, in order upon their perusal

to have them discharged w.th the Former haveing no more to add

We remain

[0578] 287 [Wraxall mention p. 176.]

Albany the 23d May 1729

May It Please your Excy

Since our last of yesterdays date Lowrence

Claesen is return’d from his journey to Onondago, who Informs

us that upon all his Inspection Among the Indians; he Can learn

no more relateing the Intentions of the French that what your Excy.

has already received from us

His acc.t of the Indians to the Southward is that they

do Only Expect some Sachims of that Nation ab.t the midle of

July in order to renew their old Coven.t w.th the Five Nations

Att a Meeting of the Comm:rs of Indian

Affairs in Albany the 29 May 1729

[Not in Wraxall.]


Evert Banker

Rutg.r Bleecker

Joh.s Cuyler

Abr. Cuyler

Har. Wendell

[Nic.s] Bleecker

Barent Sanders

Reyer Gerritse

Evert Wendell

Joh.s Lansingh                        A Proposition with Five of the Principall

Sachims of the Castle Called Onnah in the Sinekes Land

Who Produced a Large belt of black Wampum w.ch were given

to them by this Govern.t many years past as a Token to Confirm

the Coven.t Chain, which they Still Stand to, and hope that

We do the Same

They desire that they may have a Gunsmith this next

Winter in their Castle, and that they may be rode up to Schinectady

Whereupon they Lay down 3 Dr Deer Skins

They also Produce a Dollar w.ch they Say was Sent

to them for a Token to Acquaint them that his late Majesty King

George the First is dead, and also that his Present Majesty

King George the Second is Crowned in his room and Stead for

which the desire Some Other Token

[0579] 287a [Not in Wraxall.]

Att a meeting of the Commissioners of the

Indian Affairs in Albany the 30th of May 1729


Evert Bancker

Rutger Bleecker

Hen Holland

Steph.s Groesbeck

Abr. Cuyler

Nicolaes Bleecker

Evert Wendell

Reyer Gerritse

Joh.s Lansingh

Barent Sanders

Har Wendell                            Answer to five of the principall Sachims of the

Castle called Onnahe in the Sinnekes Countrey vizt


You have yesterday Shewn a belt of

Wampum unto us, w.ch was given to you by this Governm.t as a

Token of the Coven.t Chain between you and us, and we are

glad that you Still continue your Faithfull Promises w.ch

you made at the Time when you received the Same; and we

home you may long Continue So, and you may Assure your

Selves that we Shall do the Same


The Dollar w.th the black Ribon w.ch has been

given unto you is in the First place a Token The black Ribon

that his late Majesty King George the first was deceased and

the Dollar of Silver is a Token that our present Majesty was

Crown’d King in the room of his Father

And we have given to Each Nation one for

that Purpose, and therefore we desire that you may keep the Same

as a remembrance of the Late King’s decease and the Reign of

our Present King


You have desired of us that we shou’d

Send you a Gunsmith this next winter, which According to

your desire Shall be Sent you, a Fitt Person who Shall Lie

in the Castle called Canassedaha, where the Smiths Tools are


[0580] 288 [See Wraxall p. 176 for brief mention.]

Albany the 2.d June 1729

May It Please your Excellency

Our last was the 23d. ult.o now this Comes

Acquaint your Excy that Arie one of ours w.th Some French Indians

being arrived here yesteday (who were 10 days on their Voyage)

have upon Examination Informed us that the Chiefe Govern.r

of Canada Arrived at Montreal a day before they Sett out; and

upon our Examining of the s.d Indians Severally one of the

French ones does Inform us, that before his departure from

thence, he mett w.th the Chiefest Sachim of the Nation Called

Orondax, who Told him that the French had built a great

many Battoes below Monteal and that he Saw them and

that the Same were light and Smooth & that in their Conferrence

this Orondax Sachim that a great man had Told him that

the design was to Take Oswego

And upon Examining Arie our Indian (who

Was 11 days on his Voyage) Says that he really believes

the design is ag.t oswego, and therefore desired us to Accept of it

for Truth, and for a more Satisfactory Account of this Affair

We referr your Excy. to Harmanus Wendell Esq.r one of the Comm.rs

by whom this goes, and w.th due respect Subscribe Our Selves

Mr. Lowrence Claesen                        Dated Albany as above

The Two Indians whom we Sent last

from hence in order to go to Canada, having gone no farther as

Sarachtogue where they mett Arie have return’d, and it Seems

have no mind to Proceed on that Journey Therefore we desire

you may as Soon as Possible go up to the First Castle at

Genandrogue, and Endeavour to get Two Trusty Indians

w:th whom you must Come down to us, in order that we may

dispatch them from hence to Canada, We doubt not but Arie

will Assist you and will give you an Acc.t of what news

he has Learnd dureing his Stay at Canada, w.ch is the

Needfull  from

[0581] 288a [Summary in Wraxall p. 177.]

Albany 4. June 1729

May it Please your Excy

Since our last of the 2.d Instant We received

the Inclosed Letters from Oswego; and to Satidfie our Selves the

better of the behaviour of Capt. Price, the men there, & the Truth

of their actions in gen.ll we have Examin’d Some of the

Inhabitants of this Town, who are yesterday night returnd

from thence — and as the Complaints in the Inclosed Letters

of the Provisions being so bad; Must in all Appeareance to

us be false, for by what we Can Learn from all whom we

have Examined and Questioned ab.t that Matter; They do

Assure us that what they have Seen or Tasted of, are as good

in their kind as men need to Eat

We hear that the men are very Mutinous; &

the Chiefe reason of these disorders particularly ag.t the Officer

Proceeds from their not being relieved in due Time according

to Promise, and do all Affirm that they will Certainly desert

from Oswego, Perhaps before any relief can be Sent up. And

in Case any Attempt be made against the house that the men

will Surrender that Garrison, w.ch we Look upon of great

Consequence and humbly hope that Such Proper measures

will be Taken to Prevent it, as to your Excy in your wisdom

Shall Seem most Proper; and the Provisions as we are

Told will not hold out Long

They Likewise Inform us that there

are three men already deserted to Caderaqui having no

more to add we with great Submission Subscribe our


[0582] 289

Albany the 8:th June 1729

[Not in Wraxall.]

May It Please your Excy

Since our last of the 4o Inst, we have reced

the Inclosed from Capt. Price to w.ch we referr your Excy and in

relation to his Present demands we Shall as Soon as Possible

Send him up 100 lb bacon for a Fresh Supply

We have likewise dispatched two of the most

Trusty of our Indians to go to Canada, that by return of their

Inspection and Intelligence, we may the better be Enabled

how to Act in Case of an Attempt which is all that offers at

Present from

Att a Meeting of the Commiss:rs of the Indian

Affairs in Albany the 28:th June 1729

[See Wraxall p. 177 for brief summary.]


Rutger Bleecker

[?] Groesbeck

[?] Cuyler

Johannis Roseboom

[Ev]r. Wendell

Nic.s Bleecker

Ryer Gerritse

Barent Sanders                                    This day appeared before us Five Sachims of the

Far Nations of  Indians vizt. — of Two Nations Sackawa[s]

and Ampotewa, and Filled their long Pipe & Smoaked &

gave all the Comm.rs to Smoake out of the same Pipe as a

Token to Confirme their Coven.t w:th the Governm.t and

Farther Say that their Forefathers have opened the Path to

this Town; and that they Find the Same Clean and Clear as the

Sun Shines at Noonday, not obstructed by any dark Clouds

And that they are glad to Find that the Path & way to come to

meet the Commissioners Stands free & Clear from any Obstruction

or hinderance and that at their return they will Acquaint

their Brethren of the Same and of their good reception here

and that they will recommend them to make use of the Same

Path; And that they Come to Trade as Formerly and do

Expect that they may not be Molested or ill used in the same

that the French have Endeavourd to hinder them to come to

Trade here but that they were resolved to deale here and

Accordingly they come; Notwithstanding that the French told

them they were like Children and that If they came here to

Trade they woud meet w.th bad usage, but that if they wou’d

go to Canada they wou’d meet w.th no Such Treatment


[0583] 289a

And therefore they Say that Since they have Voluntarily

Come to Settle w.th us they Expect that their Skins may not be

under Rated, and that they may at all occasions have our

goods at reasonable Prices, And they acquaint us that they

have heard no news at thee Maquace Land or all along their

Journey. So that they desire that If the Comm.rs have any

News they may Acquaint them of it

Albany 28th June 1729

Answer to the Five Sachims of the Far

nations of Indians vizt.


We acquaint you that we receive you very kindly that we

have the honour to Smoake out of the great Pipe of Peace w.th

you, and are glad to Find that you are well pleased w.th haveing

the Path from you to us So Clean and Clear, for w.ch we are thank=

=full to your Forefathers and you, and you may be assured

that we will always Endeavour to keep the Same Path clean &

Clear as long as the Sun Shines, that you may not be obstr-

=ucted of Comeing to us; and you may assure your brethren

at your return that they Shall meet the Same Path always

Clean and Clear for them as well as you and that you may

All Expect good usage from us on all occasions, as Likewise

you may be Satisfied that if you Trade w.th us you Shall meet

w.th Free Liberty therein to go to whom you Please and be

honestly and kindly dealt withall as to the French Endeav=

=ouring to detain you from Comeing here, you may depend

as we have before Said that you Shall meet w.th all Imaginable

good usage from us, and we are thankfull for your

resolution to Come here and you may be well Informed

and Assured that you Can buy more for 1 bever w.th us

than for 3 w.th the French and we do Tell you that the

Two great Kings of England and France are in Peace

and in Such an Alliance that all Nations in their

Dominions may have Free Liberty To Trade over the

Same without Molestation of French or English


[0584] 290

We have no news that is bad to acquaint you w.th at pres.t

but If we hear of any for Time to Come you may depend upon

it that we will Acquaint you of it and never keep it to us

Alone; We thank you for your Present and in return we

give you a p.s Strowdes, and some Rum and Provisions for your

Journey, and we Send Two Waggons to Carry you & your

Provisions to Schinechtady. We wish you a good Journey

home and desire you may give our kind Service to your


Albany the 2.d July 1729[Not in Wraxall.]

May It Please your Excy

This is to acquaint your Excy that

the TwoIndian Messengers whom we Sent last Canada are

returned the 28.th Ult.o and gave us an Acc.t as followeth that

when they Came at Cachnawaga Castle the Indians Told them

that there was great Preperations makeing for a War and that

there was a great number of Battoes made at an Island belonging

to Mons.r Laquille, and our Messengers haveing not as yet

Seen them, therefore asked some of the Cachnawaga Indians to go

out a Fishing w.th them in regard that they thought that It

would be more Satisfactory to the Comm.rs that if at their return they

Could Inform them that they had Seen them, and as they went

to Fish and Came to the aforesaid Island they desired the

Cachnawaga Indians that they might go ashore upon the

Island and Smoak a Pipe w.th them w.ch they accordingly did

and then Saw upon the sd. Island a Considerable number of

Battoes which in the best of our Messengers Judgem.t Exceeded

a hundred in Number, and were Further Informed that there

was a great many more made down the river and Elsewhere

and Further our Messengers Inform us that the French have

Prepared a house Full of bread and were Still busie to bake

more and that their design is to Take Oswego, for that house

is So great a Detriment to them as they Say and that they are


[0585] 290a

So much Imposed upon by the English in regard that they

gett not one Ounce of bever or Skins but what is the refuse of

the English, that if they dont Prevent it by Takeing that house

they may Labour under Such hard usage for Ever So that we

must Conclude by what we Can Learn that there is an Expedition

Intended against the English, but whether it is ag.t oswego or

Albany we Cannot Tell (If the Inclosed by True we have more

reason to believe that it is ag.t Albany) and if it Should be

Ag.t Albany The city is in no wise able to Defend themselves

It being in no Manner Fortified to resist an attack

Albany the 4th July 1729

[Not in Wraxall.]

Mr. Lowrens Claesen

The two young Indians that you Sent us

Last in order to go to Canada being returned have done their

business So well that they have given the Comm.rs abundance of

Content in their Performance — and this board haveing thought

Fitt to Dispatch Two Indians again to Canada, Therefore the

Said Board does Order & Direct you to go Forthwith to the

Mohawks Countrey and Provide a Couple of as Trusty Indians

as you Can with whom you must Come down here as Soon as

Possible that we may dispatch them Forthwith, If you Can

have Two as good Indians as the last It will Answer well

Att a Meeting of the Comm.rs of the

Indian Affairs in Albany the 21st July 1729

[See Wraxall p. 177.]


Myndert Schuyler

Rutger Bleecker

Stephanis Groesbeck

Johannis Cuyler

Abraham Cuyler

Nicholas Bleecker

Johannis Roseboom                A Message from the Sachims of the

Oneydes by Two Indians names Conoghquindjah

and Ottsiquatkuysi viz.t


We are Sent here as Messengers

From the Sachims of our Castle with a Token of Seven

hands of Wampum to Acquaint you of the great



Loss of our Warriors to the Number of Fifty five, So that

we Account our Selves no more a Nations, and we deem

our Selves as a Nation utterly Perished

We and our Forefathers have kept to the

Coven.t Chain between us without any manner of breach

therein, And we Come now to Acquaint you that you must

not Expect to have the Same dependance on us, you have

hitherto had in regard that we reckon our Selves no more

a Nation

Brothers We Tell you that the Five nations

Exclusive of us have always been unsteady in their

behaviour, Wavering between the English and French

but we for our Parts have always been Firm in our

Principles, Endeavouring to do to the utmost of our power

for the Advantage of the English Nations

And we further Acquaint you of the great

Loss we have Sustained by many of the Chiefest of our

Warriers being Cutt of, and we doubt not but you will

be as Sensibly Affected w.th our mournfull State as we

have reason to be our Selves, which Time will produce

to us in a Clearer manner, how farr you are Concern’d for

this our great Loss

And we Tell you with Tears in our Eyes

that you have at three Severall Times forbid and Interr=

=rupted us to Cutt off those Nations, which we then were

Inclined to do; and therefore we Can Lay the Charge of this

great Misfortune to none but you (alone and we do Solely

Lay it at your door — and we Tell you that last Summer when

the Governour had Summoned the Six Nations to Come

together he recommended it to us in his proposition that

we Should Endeavour to make Peace with all Nations

which at that or any Other Time Should be at Variance w.th

us for that wou’d be the means of Strengthning us, for the

more we Cou’d draw to us the better we Should be in force

And now this Summer when we were Ingaged in this

[0587] 291a

This unfortunate Warr w.ch Continued Two days w.th the

Virginia Indians who were 600 in number to our one hundred

And upon the 2.d day our Enemies Proposed to Come to a peace

w.th us which Immediatly Shook into Our minds the recomm=

=endation we had received last Summer from his Excellency

the Governour in his Proposition to us, and in Obedience

to that we willingly Complied to Come to Peaceable Terms

which we no Sooner Enter’d on but our Enemies Takeing

that Oppertunity Treacherously Massacred our brethren

as we have Told you before, and therefore we have no

reasons to blame anyone but you


The alliance between you and

us has been always duly kept by our Forefathers and us

but however our Forefathers have made Some Miss Steps

in their behaviour towards the Virginia English Notwith=

=standing our Forefathers have always Observed and

kept the directions of this Governm.t and when they Waged

Warr with the Virginians they have at the request of this

Governm.t Surrenderd the English Prisoners up to them and

that at Two Severall Times.


Wee have not only Shown how

Faithfull we have been to this Governm.t in delivering up

the English Prisoners whom we Took at Virginia but Even

a Prisoner who was Taken at New England by the French

Indians and brought to Canada who was given to us in the

room of one of our men who had been killed, and whom we have

at the request of this Governm:t delivered up, and therefore

brothers Since we have always been So Faithfull to you

And that in regard for any thing that we know to the

Contrary but Some of our men may now be alive and among

those Virginia Indians with whom we Warred last, Therefore

wee Pray that our Governour may Forthwith write to the

Governour of Virginia, that he may Endeavour to deliver up

[0588] 292

Those men of ours that are Prisoners among his Indians

in the Same manner as our Forefathers have done to the

English; and we Shall never be at rest untill that is performed

and therefore wee desire that wee may w.th all Speed have an

Answer to this our request for wee Should not make this

Demand had the Virginia Indians warred w.th us in an

an honourable Manner but on the Contrary they under

Colour of makeing a Peace Murdered our brethren Trea=

=cherously, and Took our men Prisoners, whom If they deliver

up it will be a Means to bring us and them to a good Under=



Wee Intreat you to Loose no Time in

dispatching this our request to the Governour of Virginia

that we may have return of his Answer in Such Time as we

Shall Judge reasonable to Expect it Otherwise a delay in this

Affair will Prove of bad Consequence

Albany the 21:st July 1729


[M]ynd schuyler

[Ru]tger Bleecker

[Ste]ph: Groesbeck

[Jo]hannis Cuyler

[Abr]ah:m Cuyler

[Ni]ch.s Bleecker

[Joh].s Roseboom                               Answer To the Two Indian Messeng=

=ers who were Sent from the Sachims

of the Oneydes. Vizt


The great Misfortune you Inform us

Of that you had in Looseing So many Warring men, gives

us abundance of Concern and this wee Shall make appear

to you by Sending Some of the Gentlemen of this board

to your Castle within a Short Tiem to Condole the death

Of those warriers you have So unhappily lost

But Brothers wee Stand Surprised Concerning

the bad opinion you harbour of us, that you think wee

have had a hand in the Misfortune which has happen’d

you, and wee wonder who Should have given you Such

an Erroneous Character of us, that wee Should be


[0589] 292a

Instrumental in the Murdering of our brethren, in regard

that you, your Selves have Just now Confessed that your

Forefathers and ours have always Lived amicably together

and wee on our Parts have Constantly been Fair and upright

in our Deportment towards you and your brethren; and

therefore wee Desire that upon Arrivall at your Castle you will

Acquaint the Sachims from us that the great Loss you have

Sustained of haveing so many warring men Cutt off Afford us

an Inexpressable Concern; And therefore wee hope that you will

Wipe off all Such groundless Opinions of us and Utterly Expell

them from your hearts, for wee do Assure you that wee are

Entirely Innocent in this your Allegation Against us

And as to what you desire that wee Should

Write to Our Governour Wee Promise you that p first

Oppertunity wee Shall Send down your whold Proposition

to him, and wee Doubt not but he will Forthwith Perform

your request in writeing to the Governour of Virginia; and

as Soon as wee receive his Excellencys answer, you may

Depend upon it that wee Shall Forward an Expreess accord=

=ingly to you

Albany the 25.th July 1729

May it Please your Excellcy

Inclosed your Excy. has a Proposition

from the Sachims of the Oneydes and our Answer thereto

whereby your Excy. may Perceive by their unhappy as well

as ungenerous Warr what a Considerable Loss they have

Sustained; and in regard that they Streanuously request

of your Excy. that youl be Pleased to write to the Governour

of Virginia to Order that he may with all Speed deliver up

to them Such of their men as his Indians in that war has

Taken Prisoners — wherefore we Shall Patiently waite for

your Excellency’s Answer, that wee may thereby be able to

Perform our Promise in our answering them

and Likewise your Excy may Perceive in our Said Answ.r

[0590] 293

Answer that wee have Promised to Send up Two of the

Gentlemen of this board to Condole the death of their

Warriers, but on this head wee Shall waite your Excellencys

Directions; which is all that at Present offers to

Albany pmo. Sept:r 1729

[See Wraxall p. 177 for summary of situation.]

May it please your Excy

Herewith your Excy. has Copy of our

Last to w.ch we referr for want of an answer to which and your

Excys directions thereto has hitherto Prevented us of Performing

our promise to the Indians in Sending up Two Proper Persons to

Condole their Misfortune & Likewise to obtain a letter from your Excy

to the Governour of Virginia Requesting of him to deliver up to them

Such of their men as they have Taken Prisoners in that Warr all

which your Excy may more Expressly Perceive by Peruseing their

Proposition to us And our Answer thereto; (which went inclosed in

our last.) Therefore wee are of Opinion that this is an Affair of Such

Importance, Especially when we So assuredly promised to Perform

their requests, that it will not only be a reflection on us but for the

Future Frustrate our haveing any dependance on that Nation

But we thinking it absolutely necessary to

Send up Proper persons to Condole their misfortune, We do therefore

design to dispatch Two of the Gentlemen of this board Encompanied

by Lowrence Claesen the Interpreter, to go up to their Castle

Conformable to our Promise — which is the needfull at present from

Ditto Date

Messrs: Johannes Roseboom

& Lowrence Claesen

It being the resolution of the board of Comm.rs of the

Indian Affairs, That two proper Persons be Sent up to the Oneydes Castle

to Condole the Misfortune they Sustained by their last Warr, You

are therfore in the name of the Said Comm.rs hereby desired to Come

down So as to be here on Wednesday the third Instant at Two of

the Clock in the Afternoon in Order to Consult Further of this Affair

which is the needfull  from

[0591] 293a

Albany the 4th Septemb:r 1729

Instructions for Johannes Roseboom & Nicholas

Bleecker Esq.rs two of the Comm.rs for Indian Affairs

and Lowrence Claesen Interpreter for the Said Indians

Whereas by Proposition made (unto us the Comm.rs of Indian

Affairs) by the Sachims of the Oneydes bearing date the 21st of July

Last Setting forth the great Loss the said Nation have Sustained

by an unhappy War w.th the Virginia Indians, whereby they have

Lossed a Considerable number of their Warring men in so much

bthat they deem themselves a Nation Utterly Perished

And Whereas We the Said Board of Comm:rs

have in our Answering the Said Sachim’s Proposition thought it

highly necessary for the good of our Country And for continuing that

good understanding that Time out of mind has been between the

Indians and Christians of this Province; promised them in the

First place to Send up Two of the Gentlemen from this board to

Condole their great Misfortune

And in the Second place in our said Answer

have promised the Said Sachims to Signifie to his Excy our

Governour that he might write to the Governour of Virginia

requesting of him to deliver up to the Said Oneyda Indians Such

of their men as his men have taken Prisoners in that Warr

For performance of which Severall promises

you the said Johannes Roseboom & Nicholas Bleecker Assisted

by the aforesaid Lowrence Claesen are to Take your departure from

hence on Saturday the 6.th day of this Instant and to repair with

all Convenient Speed to the Oneyda Indians Castle and at your

Arrivall there in the name of the Governm.t to Condole their losses

in Such deplorable Manner as if we were all present; and to

Deliver unto them Such Necessaries as we now Send w.th you

Signifying to the Said Indians that we Send the Same by way

of Wipeing off that griefe and Sorrow which may Perhaps now lye

at their hearts Occasioned by their late unhappy War and the

Loss of their Fighting men w.ch were Massacreed therein and that

they may be assured that it gives us As much Concern as if

we had been Partakers thereof

And in respect of Obtaining an Answer

From the Governour of Virginia you may assure them that


[0592] 294

Wee at the Same Time they made their Proposition to

us did dispatch the Same to our Governour; and we doubt

not but he wrote to the Governour of Virginia accordingly

for which Answer we daily waite Expectant and w.ch when Come

to our hands Shall be Forwarded to them w.th all Expedition

however in the mean time we recommend it to them to Compfort

themselves and wipe off all Sorrow from their hearts

Albany the 13:th September 1729

[Not in Wraxall.]

Capt. Ogelvie

Wee have Endeavoured to gett a Person to Send to

repair your Chimney and oven but Finds it will Prove So Chargable

Notwithstanding that its a Small Job of work if how that we Cant

Expect to have the Same Paid by the Assembly so that wee

desire youl Endeavour to gett them repaired in the best manner

you Can, and for the Charge Accrawing thereon we Shall Take

Care to discharge it and Pay whomsoever you Employ therein

Therefore desire you may gett the necessarys ready and we

Sahll Send you a Trowell as Soon as Possible

Signed —

At a Meeting of the Comm:ers of Indian

Affairs in Albany the 20.th Septem.r 1729

[Not in Wraxall.]


[P]hilip Livingston

[Ev]ert Bancker

[H]enry Holland

[Pe]ter Van Brugh

[Jo}hannes Cuyler

[Abr]aham Cuyler

[P]hilip Schuyler

[Jer]em Van Renselaer

[Ev]ert Wendell

[R]yer Gerritse

[Johan.s Lansingh                   Pursuant to an Order in his Excy. Governour Mont=

=gomerie’s Letter of the 8.th Ins.t directing us therein to Send Hend.k

Wemp & Joseph van Size to the Sinnekes Countrey to work for

them ’till next Spring

We have therefore Sent for the sd. Hendrick

Wemp & Joseph van Size, who do appear here, and do Voluntarily

Offer to go to work for the Said Sinneke Indians (Agreeable to his

Excy’s Said Letter) Untill the First of May next Inclusive And that

they do not Ask or Expect any Satisfaction or Consideration for

Such their Service from us the Comm.rs of Indian Affairs or from

the Governm.t of this Province, whereupon we have thought fitt

to give the Said Hendrick Wemp and Joseph van Size Instructions


[0593] 294a

Instructions for Hendrick Wemp & Joseph

Van Size Smith and Armourer

In Obedience to his Excy’s Letter of the 8.th Ins.t directing

the Comm.rs of Indian Affairs to Send you up to the Sinneke’s Countre[y]

to work for them the Said Sinneke Indians as Smith & Armourer unti[l]

next Spring — Therefore You the sd. Hendrick Wemp and

Joseph Van Size are hereby directed forthwith to Take your depar[t=]

=ure from hence and to repair to the Sinnekes Castle called Cansso=

=dage and on your Arrivall there You are in the name of his said

Excy. our Governour to demand from the said Sinneke Sachims or

any Person or Persons whatsoever now there Resideing, all the

Smiths Utencills and Tools from Such Person or Persons who [now-crossed out]

Shall or May have them in his or their Possion or Power which

are belonging to the Publick, as also the Smiths Shop

Wherefore all Persons Concerned are hereby Strictly Charged

and Commanded to deliver the Same and Every Part thereof unto

you, as he or they will Answer the Contrary at his or their utmost

Perill, and as Soon as you Shall have the said Tools Utencills

and Shop in your Custody Care and Possession You are to work as

Smith and Armourer respectively for the Said Sinnekes Indians

untill the First day of May next Inclusive, And not to Absent your

Selves from the Said work untill the Time Affixed as aforesaid

be fully Expired Given under our hands in Albany this 20th day

of September 1729

Att a Meeting of the Comm.rs of Indian

Affairs in Albany the 23d Septemb.r 1729

[Not in Wraxall.]


Philip Livingston

Henry Holland

Johannes Cuyler

Abr. Cuyler

Jer. van Renselaer                   Ottsiquatkussi the Oneydes Indian that was one of the

Messengers of the great Misfortune that Nation have Sustained

being returnd from Canada with Two Other Indians, We have

Acquainted them w.th the Answer of our Governour in respect of

the request they make from the Governour of Virginia which

Answer is that his Excy. our Governour has wrote very Pressingly

to the Governour of Virginnia that their Prisoners May be Sett at

Liberty & that he Expects an Answer Speedily w.ch answer they Shall

have So Soon as Come to our hands

[0594] 295 [Not in Wraxall.]

By Instructions of the Commissioners of Indian Aff-

Bareing date the 4.o September 1729

According to directions We did Sett out the 6:th Instant

(w.th Lowrens Claesen Interpreteer) by water, w.th Two other hired men

to attend us to the Oneyde Castle to Condole the Loss of their waring

men, which they have Lost by their unhappy Warr w.th the

Virginia Indians — when [We] Came at the Mohawks Land

Fourteen of the Sachims of the Two Castles went along with us

to Condole the great Misfortune of the Said Oneyde and Tusqua

=rora Indians The 17.th Inst. We Came in the Oneyde Castle

and were received with Joy, and they Told us that they were

Very glad to See us (their brothers) And that they had been very

Much afflicted, but their Hearts were now rejoyced when they

did See their brothers

The 18:th Instnat we have in the name of the

Government with the Sachims of the Mohawks Castle Condold

the Oneyde and Tusquaroras Indians w.ch they have Lost in

their Last Warr, w.ch we did according to Custom

Wee Told them that we did Plant a Tree wishing

That the Same might grow bigg Again and Desired they

Might Live together in one Castle w.th their men who are Scatterd

Wee in the name of the Governm.t did give them

the Necessarys allowed us by the Comm:rs for that purpose

The Answer of the Said Oneyde & Tusquarora Indians

(after we had Condoled their great Misfortune) was they heartily

Thanked our Governm.t for Every Article in the Condolation

made unto them

They Gave to our Governm.t Some Wampum and

Some dearskins & Sayd they were very glad that we had planted

a Tree to grow up Again & Sayd also they would Endeavour to Come

to Live in one Castle Again who are now Scatterd They made 2

young Sachims in our Presence Named Thorachquenda

and Otsadiecha in room of Two Sachims they Lost in the

Aforesd. war of the Same names

They desired If we had any news for the future

to acquaint them of it — which we Promised to do

Given under Our hands Albany 24.o Septem.r 1729

Signed             Johannes Roseboom

Nicolas Bleecker

[0595] 295a [Not in Wraxall.]

Albany the 27:th Sepbr. 1729

May it Please your Excy

Your Excys. most acceptable Favours

of the 8.th Instant we have received and Should have answer’d

the Same Sooner but that we waited for return of the Two Gent

from our board whom we Sent to Condole the Misfortune w.ch

had befallen the Oneydes, who have brought us Such Answer as

Your Excy. here has Inclosed by which your Excy. may observe

that our Messuage had the good Effect Intended

In obedience to your Excys Commands we have

Consulted how to have the Oven and Chimney repaired at oswego

And do Find that It would Prove So Expensive to Send up Workmen

there (notwithstanding It’s a Small Job) that we Could not Venture

to Intermedle So farr but we have wrote to Captain Ogilvie desireing

him to gett the Same repaired in the best Manner he Can

Promiseing him in our Letter that we Should Endeavour to have

what Charges Should Accrew thereon discharged and have

Sent him a Trowell for that Purpose

To Answer your Excy in respect of Sending up

a Smith and Armourer to the Sinnekes Land we have in our

Answer to a Proposition Made unt us onb the 29th May last by

Five of the Principall Sachims of that nation, Sent at that present

Time for the most Proper Person of a Smith and Armourer that we

Could Light of (named Robert Lansingh) and who in Presence of

the Said Sachims Offerd to go upon Such Terms as no one Ever

as yet has gone, viz.t that would go for Nothing; but Notwith=

=standing wht we had Agreed w.th the Said Lansingh we have

withdrawn that and obeyed Your Excys Commands by Sending

up Hendricus Wemp and Joost Van Size whom your Excy

Named for that Purpose — We remain &c

[0596] 296

[very similar version printed in Pennsylvania Archives 1: 241-242. Not in Wraxall.]

Patrick Gordon Esq.r Lieut. Governour of the

Province of Pensilvania & Countys of New Castle Kent and

Sussex upon Delaware

To My good Friends Shikallamy & Peter

Alias Kataryonyacha at


You are very Sensible of our great Care & Affection for

all the good Indians our brethren that Live Amongst us or near us,

It’s this Love that has Filled our hearts with griefe for the Late loss

that has befallen them, Our Souls are Afflicted for the Loss of our dear

good Friends Carundawana and Shikallamy’s fine Son, and all our

Other Friends of the Five Nations. We Loved Carundawana as our

Own brother when I the Governour first heard of his Loss I Sent a

Letter Immediatly to the Indians of Canestogoe to Lett them know

that If they would Send and See if he was yet Alive and Could be

Redeemed, I would Lay his Ransome — We Send a Strowd to Cover

Skekallamy’s Son

As Soon as you See and hear this Letter, We

desire you Our good Friends to goe directly to the Five Nations

w.th the Ten Stowds [Strouds] herewith delivered to you, and Presenting them

to their Chiefs in the name of John Penn who was born in this

Country to his Father William Penn their brother when he

Was last hear, and also in my name. Tell them that we Mourn

in the deepest of our Hearts for their Loss, and that we Send these

Strowds to Cover their dead.  We grieve when they Loose any of

their People, we would have their Numbers Increase, that they

May be a great People, and we Mourn when they are Lessen’d

or when they Destroy themselves by War

We are much Troubled that they went to Fight

w.th Indians that were in Friendship with the English, and were

Tradeing w.th them, The English would not hurt the Five Nations

If they knew them, but they thought them Enemies, because they

Came to Fight Against their Friends, All the English are one

People, and all their Friends Should be one People, we grieve

for this Mistake and unhappy Loss

Tell them we Expect John Penn over here next

Spring and he will desire to Treat with them, when he Comes We

Shall Send to them, We have wished to Speak with them Since

Connossora Tannenhannegah and their Company were here

About three years Since when John Penn Speaks with them

We Shall then all Open our breasts, Every one will then Speak


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His Mind freely, the Chain will be brightned and our Friendship

and brotherhood will be Established on a Foundation of Peace that

Shall Endure for Ever

In the Mean Time we desire them as our

brethren that they would not hearken to the Reports or Speeches of

any Angry People whose hearts are not good our hearts are Clean

as the Purest Fountains of Water, or as the Suns beams we have

Nothing in them but Love towards our brethren

These things I desire you to Say to our

Friends and brethren the Chiefs of the Five Nations as Soon as you

Possibly Can gett thither – And Let them know that as we are

kind to all their People when we See them So we desire them to be

Kind to our People wherever they Meet with them, whether on

Sasquehannah or Patowmack or allegheny or in any other place

For brethren Should in all Places be kind to Each Other

I heartily wish you well and Shall waite your

Answer Who am

Your Very Loveing Friend

Philadelphia 18:th Aug:st 1729          P: Gordon

James Logan

Albany 13:th October 1729

[Not in Wraxall.]

May It Please Your Excellency

Since our last of 27:th Ult:o the Inclosed

Letter from the Govern:r of Pensilvania has Come thro’ the Countrey

to the Oneyde Indians who Sent it to us, in regard they were uneasy

about it, not knowing what it Ment — So that thinking it very

Necessary, We Shall Send Lowrence Claesen the Interpreter up to

them w.th the Originall Letter in Order to Expound to them in their

Language, And to recommend to the Five Nations in Generall

to be at Ease and not to go to Warr, but waite untill Such Time

as your Excellency Shall meet them here, We Should be very

glad If Means Could be Found out to keep our Indians and

those of Virginnia in Amity together, which If not Soom Effected

May Prove of of [sic] Fatal Consequence We are with great respect &c.

[0598] 297 [Not in Wraxall.]

Albany the 21:st October 1729

Instructions For Lowrence Claesen

Whereas the Oneyde Indians have received a Letter

From Patrick Gordon Esq.r Lieut. Governour of the Province of

Pensilvania, beareing date at Philadelphia the 18:th of August

Last and which Letter we have Sent after Peruseing to the Said

Oneyde Indians, a True Copy of which you Likewise have with

you, and in regard that the Said Indians Sent the Said Patrick

Gordons Letter to us, in as much that they knew not what it

Meant.  Therefore You must go up Forthwith to the Said

Oneyde Indians, and Expound and Interpret the Said Patrick

Gordons Letter to them in their Language, which when done

you must in the Name of this Government Recommend to

the Said Oneyde Indians and the Six Nations in generall

That they for the future be at Ease and not go to Warr to the

Southward, For they Cannot but remember That his Excellency

our Governour has at all Times in his Publick Meetings

w.th them advised them that they Should Live in Peace and

Amity — So We desire and Intreat them not to go to Warr

upon any account with Those Virginia Indians or any

Others that are in Amity w.th the English, whereby they will

Perform their Promises to Our Governour and keep them=

=selves a happy People

[There are no entries for November 1729]

[0624] 310

[Not in Wraxall.]

Att a Meeting of the Commissioners of

the Indian Affairs in Albany the 5th of

December 1729

Ends December 4th 1732


Philip Livingston

Myndert Schuyler

Stephanus Groesbeck

Abraham Cuyler

Harmanus Wendell

Evert Wendell

Johannes Roseboom

Reyer Gerritse

Barent Sanders

Johannes Lansingh

Nicholas Bleecker                               This day appeared before us Teawhon=

=waghwangeraqua an Oneydes Sachamaker

who being Sent from the Oneydes makes the foll

Proposition Vizt.

And in the name of that Nation give[s]

hearty thanks to his Excy. that he had Sent a

Proper Person to Expound the Letter they received from

Patrick Gordon Esq.r Lieut. Govern.r of Pensilvania The

Expounding of which was of Extraordinary Contents to them

And It has also been very Satisfactory to them that that

Government has So heartily Condoled the Loss the their

Warring men

But Brothers — my Chief Errand

here is to Earnestly Enquire in the name of our Nation If

our Brothers has wrote to his Excy Our Governour that he

might write to the Governour of Virginia to desire him to Surren=

=der what men of ours that he had Taken Prisoners in our last

Warr w.th his Indians, which request we Earnestly desired our

Brothers to Perform Shortly after the Misfortune happen’d us

which is not Long Since, and I Come Likewise to be rightly

Informed whether the Fault of our not haveing an Answer

Lyes on Our Brothers or Our Governour, Or the Governour

of Virginia                   Brothers

We have Waited an answer w.th a great

Deal of Impatience, And have according to your request

kept our Brethren and been Instrumental in keeping the

Other Five Nations in Peace and Prevented them from


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Going out to Fight but if we Should not receive the Satisfaction

We required of our Brothers Speedily, we Cannot Expect to keep

our Nations Longer from Looking for Satisfaction Another

Way which Perhapps may Prove of bad Consequence

The Answer of the Comm:rs to Teawhonwag

wangeraqua the Oneydes Sackamaker


as on the other Side


We are much Concerned that you ar[e]

So Long without an answer to your Satisfaction from the

Governour of Virginia, but we do Assure you that we are not

in the Least Faulty in this Affair, for we Lost not a Moments

Time in Writeing to His Excy our Governour on that head

and he Immediatly wrote to the Governour of Virginia desire=

=ing that if there was any of your men Taken Prisoners by

his Indians they might be Sett at Liberty – and to Shew you

how farr we are Concerned for your late unhappy Loss, Two

of Our number have not Long Since waited on our Govern.r

at New York and Talked to him of your People who did then

Assure us that he had wrote a Second Letter to the Governour

of Virginia to which If he did not receive an Answer in

reasonable Time we beggd he might write a third one

but he desired us to Tell you that you might depend on it

as Soon as he received an answer from that Governmt

he would Dispatch it to us which we Promise you

Shall Loose no Time in Forwarding it to you when

Come to hand