Minute Book 3: 1730

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Volume 1: Minutes of the Commission of Indian Affairs – Albany, New York, 1722-1732 – 1220

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[0626] 311 [Not in Wraxall.]

Att a Meeting of the Comm:rs

of the Indian Affairs in Albany the

21st January 1729/30


Myndert Schuyler

Evert Bancker

Henry Van Renselaer

Rutger Bleecker

Evert Wendell

Stephanus Groesbeck

Johannes Roseboom

Harmanus Wendell

Nicholas Bleecker

Ryer Gerritse

Philip Shuyler

Jeremiah Renselaer

Dirck Ten Broeck

Joh.s Lansingh                        The Secretary of the Indian Affairs having

this day Produced a Commission from his Excy

John Montgomerie Esq.r Captain Generall and

Governour in Chief of the Province of N: York &c.

Whereby Philip Livingston, Myndert Schuyler

Henry Holland, Johannes Schuyler, Peter Van

Brugh, Evert Bancker, Henry Van Renselaer,

Rutger Bleecker, Evert Wendell, Stephanus Groesbeck,

Johannes Roseboom, Abraham Cuyler, Harmanus

Wendell, Nicholas Bleecker, Ryer Gerritse, Philip Schuyler,

Jeremiah Van Renselaer, Dirck Ten Broeck, Johannes

Lansingh, and Barent Saunders, Are Appointed Commission:ers

for the Indian Affairs at Albany and those whose names are

Enter’d in the Margent have Taken the Oaths appointed by

Law and Likewise the Oath for the due Executing of their Office


Att a Meeting of the Comm:rs of

Indian Affairs in Albany the 29:th of

January 1729/30 [Not in Wraxall.]


Ph. Livingston

Mynd.t Schuyler

Peter Van Brugh

Rutger Bleecker

Evert Wendell

Reyer Gerritse

Abraham Cuyler

Nicholas Bleecker

Har. Wendell

Joh.s Roseboom

Joh.s Lansingh

Barent Saunders                                  The Speech of ye Sachims

of Cayouges


Wee Arrived here this day

and are glad to meet you at this Place w.ch wee

Suppose happens unexpectedly to you.

Our Journey hitherto is w.th great grief and Sorrow

to acquaint you of the great Losses we have Sustaind

in our Castle


Our Ancestors have always

kept the Covenant Inviolable w.th this Government the


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Reason of Entering into w.ch Coven.t was on acco.t of our being

Convinced of the Cheapness of goods Afforded to us, And when

any difference happend between the Five Nations and this

Government Wee have always been Instrumentall in the

Accommodateing it and Constantly Obedient to all Commands

Layed on us by this Government


As Wee have Told you before of our

Stedfastness to this Government So we do Assure you that we

Always Study to Continue So and Shall Perpetually do the

utmost in our Power for defence of this Governm.t against the

French or any other Enemys that may Threaten it


Wee need not to Repeat our

Fidelity to this Governmt. but we Come to acquaint you

that we have Lost Eight Sachims, who died lately out of our

Castle, and we do Assure and Promise you that dureing Life

Wee Shall behave our Selves Steady to this Government

But we must Acquaint you how at Severall Times we have

requested of Former Governours (not of one alone) that our

Young Indians might have Powder Shott and Such necessarys

as might be helpfull to them to Provide for their Wives and

Children And Since we have been desired by all the Govern.rs

we have Treated w.th to make our Application to them or the

Governour for the Time being when we wanted any necessarys

And at the Same Time have been Strictly Charged not to Robb

or Steal but to apply as aforesaid, So we hope that we may

have Such Necessarys from this board as we Lye in need

of or as they think Convenient to give us — For we do Assure

you that we are in a necessitous Condition, and tho’ we

bring a Few Skins they are but in Token of our Constant

Fidelity in Preserving this Government from all Such

As may Oppose it


[0628]312 [Not in Wraxall.]

The Answer of the Comm:rs of Indian Affairs to the

Sachims of the Cayouges Albany the 29th Jan.ry 1729/30


[a]s on the       }

Foregoing s.o  }



We acquaint you that we are much Concern’d

For the Loss of your decesed Sachims, and we are glad to hear you

Continue So Steadfastand faithfull in your adherence to this

Government; As to your necessitous Condition you acquaint

us of — Affords us Equal Concern Wherefore we doubt not but

his Excy. Our Govern.r will always Retaliate and make

Suitable Returns to your Nation for your Faithfull Adherence

to this Government but in the mean Time, We give you in

Powder, Lead, Flints, knives &c. for hunting as you have


We Take this Oppertunity of

Condoleing the death of your Sachims deceased, and wipe

off your Tears, and bury them by these three blanketts of

Strowds, not doubting but you have appointed wise and

Experienced men to Supply their room who may have a good

regard to the good of their Country — We are Sendible of the

Constant Fidelity you bear for the Safety and Preservation

Of this Province and do Acknowledge the Same w.th thanks

We Cannot Omitt Telling you that we are

Informed that Some French from Canada are Come among

you On Account of Trade, whom we desire youl not Suffer to

Reside among you, in as much that you are Sensible that

those People do at all Times amuse you w.th false and ground

=less Informations which Cannot Portend good to you or the

Welfare of this Province, and give you and us Uneasiness


[0629] 312a [Summary Wraxall p. 177-178.]

Att a Meeting of the Comm:rs of Indian

Affairs in Albany the 14th February 1729/30


Ph. Livingston

Steph.s Groesbeck

Rutger Bleecker

Evert Bancker

Hend. V Renselaer

Abraham Cuyler

Jer. V. Renselaer

Joh.s Rooseboom

Nich.s Bleecker

Barent Saunders                      The Comm:rs haveing Sent a Messuage to the Sachims

of Oneyde to Send hither Some of their Chiefs to whom

Should be Communicated the Contents of the Letter His Excy.

Our Govern.r has received from the Govern.r of Virginia, Relating

to the Prison.rs taken from them Last Summer, In obedience to

which Message the Said Sachims have Sent hither Five

Delegates to whom the Comm.rs Said as Follows


Sometime Last Summer you acquaint:d

Us w.th the great Loss of Severall of your Nation Fallen and Taken

in a Warr w.th the Southern Indians at that Time, for w.ch we were then

And yet are very much Concernd, and Did directly According to

your Desire, Write to Our Govern.r that he would be Pleasd

to Acquaint the Govern. of Virginia w.th the Circumstances of

what happen’d w.ch he did and haveing reced the Govern.r of Virgin=

=ias’s Answer thereto; is in Substance as follows Vizt

Virginia Octob:r 29th 1729


I was at First much Surprised to find so daring an

Action Charged on the Virginia Indians, who are a Poor handfull

of People of divers Nations, and at Constant Variance among

themselves, and who I knew Could not Form So Considerable a

Body, if all of them Untied, as that by which the Oneydes Say they

Were attacked. But upon Enquiry I found, as indeed I did Imagine

that the Virginia Indians had no hand it it, Or any knowledge

of this Defeat Complained of by the Oneydes; I am Informed that

the Last Summer there happend an Action between Some of the

Six Nations, and the Cattaboaws, a Nation Four hundred miles

distant from Virginia within the Limitts of South Carolina

And the Cause of it was as Follows


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A Party of the Six Nations Comes to a Town of the Cattabaws

while the Young men were gone a hunting, They fell upon the old

Men, the Women and the Children, and killed a Considerable

Number Carrying off Some Prisoners but the alarm haveing

Reched the Other Towns, they w.th all the Force they Could muster up

Pursued their Northern Enemies, Overtook & Attacked them

And if they make a Faithfull Report, killed a great many more

that the Oneydes Own to your Comm:rs and brought back w.th them

Divers Prisoners

I am desirous to Convince them, that tho’

Our Indians are altogether Innocent of the Charge of killing their

Warriers Yet this Governm.t Looking upon the Six Nations as

Friends, will not be Wanting in doing of them all the good offices

in our Power And Your Excy. will be Pleased to Let them know

that I am now dispatching a Messenger to the Cattabaws to Treat

About the Redemption of their Prisoners at the Publick Expence

And that I Shall Endeavour to have them brought hither Some

Time the next Spring, with Some of the Chief of the Cattabaws, and

if your Indians are disposed to Enter into Terms of Accomodation

w.th thm, I shall be ready to do my best Endeavours for that Purpose

If from your hands I receive the articles they have to Propose

In the mean Time I hope by your Interposition the Six

Nations will not Seek for Reprisalls by Way laying or Molesting

the Cattabaws in their Journey hither or whilst they are under

the Conduct of this Government, because Such an attempt would

Render this Colony, and all the English Plantations for Ever

After Suspected of Infidelity and Treachery amongst our Indian


I am Sure I Can give them no better Proofs of

The Friendship of this Governm.t than by the Measures I propose

for the Recovery of their Warriers that are now Prisoners

But whatever are the Sentiments of the Six Nations I shall

Account my Self very happy, if by any Endeavours of mine, that

Peace & [Quiet] may be restored & Preserved, w.ch your Excy. has So much

at heart; Especially if you will be Perswaded of the Truth & respect

w.th w.ch I am &c.                             William Gooch


To His Excy Jn.o Montgomerie Esq.r &c.


[0631] 313a

the Answer of the Sachims of Oneyde to the

Comm.rs of Indian Affairs Albany 14th ffeb: 1729/30


As on the foreg=

=oing P.o


We return you thanks for Explaining the

Governour of Virginia’s Letter to us, And we are much oblidged

to him for his kind Interposition in Redemption of the Prisoners

And as we are but of Two Nations, We are at Present not able to

give an Answer ’till we have acquainted and Consulted the

Sachims of the Six Nations in Generall; Then we Shall Answer

the Same. And we are much Rejoyced to hear that Some of

our People who were Taken Prisoners are yet alive

We Desire that we may have Slays to bring

us to the upper Settlements, and that we may have our hatchets

Mended and Likewise that we may have Provisions for

our Journey home


Albany the 6:th March 1729/30

May it Please Your Excellency

We are Favourd w.th your Excys

Letter of 15th January last as Likewise with Copy of Governour

Goochs’s, upon receipt of which We (with all Speed) dispatchd

a Messenger to the Oneydes, to desire them to send down Some of

their Chiefs to whom Should be Communicated, the Contents of

Said Letter And they haveing sent hither Five Deligates

We Expounded the Same to them. Who in their Answer Thank

Your Excy. for your Care and Diligence in their Affair, and

Acknowledge themselves much Obildged to the Governour

of Virginia, for his Interposition in the Redemption of their

Prisoners, but in as much As they were but of Two Nations they


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Are Unable to give a direct Answer ’till they have Consulted

the Six Nations in generall and they are Exceedingly rejoyced

to hear that their People who were Taken Prisoners are yet alive

We Shall take Care to Advise your Excy. with their

Answer, As Soon as they Come down In relation to the Oven

and Chimney at Oswego; We did upon Capt. Ogilvie’s Complaint to

Your Excy desire him to gett the Same repaired, and that we

Should Pay the Charge, and Sent him a Trowell for that purspose

As your Excy. may observe by our Letter of the 27th Septem:r last

however Mr. Wendell assures us that he has Caused them

to be repaired at his own Cost

We Cannot Omitt Acquainting

Your Excy of an unhappy accident that happend to His Majties

Fort here, on Tuesday night last, about nine a Clock, being

a Fire on 4 Severall places, on the Stockadoes, and which in

all Probability, must have been done Designedly; but by

Whom (notwithstanding our Strict Examination) We Cannot

Learn; however (thanks be to God) it was Quickly Extinguishd

by the Assistance of the Inhabitants of the City. Haveing no

More to Add, We are with great Esteem


Att a Meeting of the Commission.rs

for Indian Aff:rs in Albany the [15]:th April 1730

[Wraxall summary p. 178 leaves out the decision not to fully explain the letter.]


Ph. Livingston

Steph. Groesbeek

Rutger Bleecker

Harm.s Wendell

Abr. Cuyler

Evert Bancker

Evert Wendell

Johannes Roseboom

Joh.s Lansingh

Nicholas Bleecker

Dirck Ten Broeck                   This board on receipt of a Letter from his Excy.

John Montgomerie Esq.r our Governour dated the

20.th of March last, with Copy there Inclosed from

William Gooch Esq.r Governour of Virginia

dated the 19th January last Past in relation to

the Defeat of the Oneyde Indians, and the

Prisoners Taken from them by the Cattabaw

Indians, under the Governm.t of South Carolina

a Messenger has been Sent to Oneyde to desire them to

Send Some of their Sachims hither, to Communicate unto


[0633] 314a

Them the Contents of the said Letter — The said Messenger

being returnd, relates That none of the Chief Sachims were at home

but gone On Hunting. Nevertheless Some of the Neighbouring

Indians of Tuscarora, one Oneyde and a Few Maquace are

come hither on this Occasion The Comm.rs Considering that

it would be of Fatal Consequence to Explain Said Letter

unto the Indians, and Certainly the Effect of a bloody War

between our Six Nations and the Said Cattabaw Indians

and in the Passage of Said Nations, who will Pursue their

Revenge, may Probably Fall in with the Christian Settlem:ts

and attack them, It is therefore maturely considerd what

Would be most Proper to do in this Critical affair to avoid

the mischief which might befall the Christian Settlements

by Occasion of this War – and the barbarous butcherys of

These Savages on One another, while our Indians Impute

their late Defeat to the Christians as well as to the Southern

Indians — It is therefore resolved to Tell them in

Substance what Follows — vizt

That according to Our promise to the

Oneydes We desired our Governor to write to the Governour

of Virginia, in relation to the Prisoners Taken from them

Who Informs our Governour, That he has Sent Messengers

to the Cattabaw Indians, who are not Subject to that Governm.t

but Live under the Government of South Carolina Four

hundred miles distant from the Frontiers of Virginia to

Come thither to Treat with him about the Release of their

Captives, but Came not according to his request. That he

had received Intelligence that Ten of their Prisoners were yet

alive, and that they would rather Stay where they are than

Return home, We could wish that Some of the Oneyde

Sachims had Come hither on this Occasion We Expect them

here as Soon as they Come from Hunting. We are perswaded

that the most Effectual Method to redeem their Prisoners

Would be for them to Send one Sachim of Each Nation with Two

Christians from hence to Virginia to Treat with the Cattabaw

Indians there to release their Prisoners and Conclude a lasting

Peace with those and Other Southern Indians, We Shall by the

time the Oneyde Sachims Can be here Endeavour to Obtain leave

from Our Governour for them to go thither with a Pass we are

Perswaded that the Governour of Virginia will Imbrace all


[0634] 315

All Oppertunities of doing any Friendly offic in his power

to Serve the Six Nations; he affirms That none of the Indians

in his Governm.t are Concernd in the war ag.t them, and do not

Venture beyond their Inhabitants, Except a Nation Called the

Nottoways, who are in Friendship w.th the Six Nations as they

very well know; there was an other Nation Calld the Saponies

Tributary to Virginia, but on a Quarrel between them and the

Tuscaroras, they departed from thence into South Carolina

The aforesaid Tuskarora and Other Indian

Messengers Seemd So Perfectly Satisfied w.th the Foregoing relat=

=ion that they made no manner of Objection thereto – but were

very thankfull to his Excellency our Governour and this board for

their Negotiation in the affair of the Oneydes


Albany the 18.th April 1730

May it Please Your Excellency

We Received your Excellency’s favours

Of the 20th March last with Inclosure from Governour Gooch

whereupon we dispatchd an Express to the Oneydes desireing they

might Send hither Some of their Sachims, in order that we Should

Communicate to them the Contents of the Governour of Virginias

Letter, who being this day returnd, have brought down Some Tuska

=rora one Oneyde and a few Maquace Indians, in regard the

Oneydes were gone a hunting, to whom we disclosed Such parts

of Said Letter as we are of Opinion were Consistant with the

Preservation and wellfare of his Majesties Subjects, whom we

doubt not but might be in danger Should we have Explaind the

Full Contents of the aforesd. Letter, which would have been motives

to Exasperate their brutish Dispositions into some Attempt

that might Prove Fatal to our Christian Friends, as well as

be a Means to Lessen themselves, The Inclosed is Copy of our

Treaty w.th their Messengers returnd, and as this is an affair of Such

nice Circumstances, we have Acted as Cautiously therein as

Possibly we Could (as will appear by our Minutes) and hope

Your Excy. will approve thereof, Your Excy. will Please likewise

to observe That in the aforementiond Treaty with the Indians


[0635] 315a

We have advised them to Send one Sachim of Each Nation

in Company w.th Two Christians to go from hence to Virginia

in order to Treat about the redemption of their Prisoners, which we

thought was the best Steps we Could take to keep them in an

Amicable Temper

By our Conferrence w.th these Messengers we

Cannot Say that the Six Nations will Enter into those measures

we have Proposed for Redemption of their Captives, but in Case they

Should and the Sachims come down for that Purpose we Shall

Still be unable to make it good, unless your Excy. will Please to

Consider of a Method for defraying the Expence of Such along Voyage

and hope your Excy. will Favour us w.th an answer in this Affair

that we may be Prepared for the Indians who we know not how

Soom may come down — haveing no more to add — We are etc.


Att a meeting of the Commissioners

for Ind. Affairs in Albany the 11th May 1730

[Wraxall summary p. 178.]


Philip Livingston

Myndert. Schuyler

Rutger Bleecker

Stephanus Groesbeck

Abr. Cuyler

Harmanus Wendell

Nicholas Bleecker

Jer. Van Renselaer

Hendrick V. Renselaer

Evert Wendell             Appeard at this board three Oneydes Sachims

named Onnitsondie Ottsichwatkeese and Onosakin=

=tie jagee,  who came down agreeable to the request

of this board on their Treaty of the 15.th Ult.o with

the Tuskarora and Other Indian Messengers

to whom we Expounded the Govern.r of Virginia’s

Letter and Layed before the Said Messengers Such as

Method as we thought would Prove Effectuall for

Redemption of their Captives — and now this board haveing

repeated the aforesaid Treaty (Verbatim) to these three Oneyde

Sachims – they make Reply in the words Following vizt

Brother Corlaer

With great Concern we

Communicated unto you the great Loss of our Warriers at Virginia

We thought that our Brethren here would have been good Mediators

between us and those Indians, to reconcile that Affair by redeeming

our brethren who are Captives, while we fear that this Affair will



Otherwise Create a great misUnderstanding inasmuch that we

are a Nation who are not as yet Subdued or brought under

For if our request be not answerd – we Shall raise what force we

are able – and all our Allies who Live to the Southard of our

Castles to Joyn w.th us to revenge this base Action


You Proposed to us that one of Each

Of our Nations and Two brethren from hence Should go to

Virginia to Contrive a method to redeem our Prisoners — We

in the name of the Six Nations Reject that proposall & Offer

while it has not been the practice, to meet any where to Treat about

Publick Affairs or any matter of Moment at any place but at

the City of Albany, which has been always the Seat of Treaty

and the Governour of Virginia has in his last Treaty w.th us

promised to meet us here when any Affair of Moment Should

be Transacted – Wherefore we Desire him to Send our Prisoners

hither w.th Messengers; Should he now So Soon have forgotten

his last promise and Treaty – while he reminded us of Some

Mischief Some of our People had done in his Governmt. Some

years ago – Wherefore we desire that this our proposall may be

Forthwith Forwarded to the Governour of Virginia that it may

not be Delayed; for as much that we have kept all our Warriers

at home, who waite the result of a Favourable Issue without

Loss of Time, who Otherwise will go out in a body to Take revenge

On those Indians who Detain their Prisoners Wherefore We

Lay down a belt of Wampum w.ch we desire may be Sent to the Gov.r

of Virginia to Send Messengers hither with our Prisoners –

but if he Cant Procure them, We begg Said belt may be Sent back

to us – and we Desire further by a String of Wampum that in

Case the Said Governour Cant redeem our Prisoners from the

Indians So as to Send them hither, we begg him to Send us their

Names in Writeing that we may know who is yet alive – And

then the Indians who Detain them may Expect the Issue from

the Six Nations and their Allies.


We Shall Desist saying more on this

head. Our Governour is master of us all to whom this must be

Sent and if he doth not approve of what we have Said, We desire

him to make his Objections.


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The Answer of the Comm.rs to the Three Oneyde Sachims


By your Speech You Reject our proposall to

redeem your People who are Prisoners among the Indians at

South Carolina, which you by mistake Take for Virginia

We Shall forthwith Acquaint our Governour w.th what you

Request to the Governour of Virginnia, with your belt and String

of Wampum  We are very well Assured that he has already done & will

Continue to do all the good Offices in his Power for the redemption

of your people, or any other Affair wherein he Can Serve you and we

know that he has a great Esteem for the Six Nations as long as

they behave themselves Peaceable towards his Majestys Subjects

We are amaz’d that you Seem to Impute a neglect in us to

Write Concerning the redemption of your Prisoners unto Our Govern.r

and the Govern.r of Virginia, whom we are fully Convinced have done

all in their Power to Serve you and that after all our Endeavours

to obtain a Redemption of your Captives it has had no Success as

you desire and Expect, you Seem to Lay the blame on us, of which

Our Governour the Governour of Virginia and we are Clear

And we are Certain that your People are not detain’d by

Indians who are under the Government of Virginia, but by those

who Live in South Carolina


At a meeting of the Comm:ers for Indian Affairs

in Albany the 13th May 1730 [Not in Wraxall.]


Philip Livingston

Evert Wendell

Harm Wendell

Stephanus Groesbeck

Hend. Van Renselaer

Dirck Ten Broeck

Reyer Gerritse                         Upon Information of Jeremiah Van Renselaer

Jun. Son of Coll.o Hendrick Van Renselaer That three of

the river Indians had Disturbed the Said Hendrick

Van Renselaer in the Peaceable Possession that

he ought to have in a Tract of Land lying near Claverack

and had Committed Severall Irregularities in driveing the Said

Renselaer’s Cattle off his Land and threatning him and his Son,

in a Very Insulting manner

Wherefore this board haveing

Sent for the Sachims of the Said river Indians and acquainted

them of the Facts Charged ag.t the aforesd. three Indians and

desired them to Send for those three Indians, that they might

Appear with the Sachims before this board, to Shew what

Reasons they had for behaveing themselves in [the aforesaid – crossed out] Such an


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Irregular manner, whereupon the Sachims Sent

for those three Indians, and this day the following Sachims

Appeard Vizt. Ampamet, Wanenpachea, Nahacanet, Waukan=

=aghlanck, Mogh So Mogh Seet, Cagh Wapeck, Papoen Aut,

Teuwenionw and brought one of them who Says that the other

Two are gone a hunting, and upon Examining this Indian what

the reasons were that [Caused – crossed out] moved them to behave in Such an Insult=

=ing manner, he acknowledges the Fact but Says he was

[moved – crossed out] Excited thereto by Instigation of an [old – crossed out] Indian Squaw, who

Told him that it was his Land, and do’s propise together with

the Sachims, that they Shall never Attempt to molest or

Trouble the said Hendrick Van Renselaer for the Future in the

Possession and Peaceable Enjoyment of his Said Land and that

they will forbid the other Indians who are now at home that

they Shall Likewise Desist to Trouble or Molest the Said

Hendrick Van Renselaer or his Tenants in the aforesd. Lands


Albany the 19th May 1730

[See Wraxall p. 179 for partial summary.]

May It please Your Excy

Since our Last of the 18th ult.o three Oneyde

Sachims are Come hither as we did Expect; who have Spoke to us

in the manner Your Excy. has in the Inclosed Minutes, and

by which Treaty Your Excy. may Observe, that it is misticall to

Form a Judgement what the Effect of these Savages Tempers may

be in the End; In our answer to these Sachims, we have Assured

them (as we have reason to believe) That the Governour of Virgin=

=ia has not in the Least been Faulty in this Affair, but however

We are much afraid, it’s all to no Purpose, In as much That

Reasoning w.th Such brutish dispositions has Seldom or never

the Intended Effect — We Send your Excy. the belt and String of

Wampum, which Your Excy. will be Pleased to Transmitt to the

Governour of Virginia, agreeable to their desire, as to their Other

Requests from Governour Gooch we Entirely Leave that to

Your Excy’s Prudent Management — We Take Leave to Acquaint

Your Excy. That Mr. Harmanus Wendell haveing made Compl.t

to this board, that Severall Indians at the Small Carrying

Place have robbed his Battoes Laden w.th provisions for the

use of the Garrison at oswego, and Taken Pork, Rum and


[0639] 317a

Other things from his People, and Likewise threatned them

in Such a Dangerous manner, that they decline to go again

in the Service of Said Wendell whereupon we have Examind

Some Persons, who are Lately Come from thence, and do

Confirm the Truth of Mr. Wendells Complaint — Therefore in

behalfe of Said Mr. Wendell, and for the better Care of haveing the

Garrison duly Furnished w.th provisions — We Shall Send Low:

Claesen to the aforesaid Indians, in order that he Enquire into

the circumstances of this Affair, and hope your Excy. will

approve of our So doing — who are — with due respect &c.

PS                   Your Excy will Please to Note to the Govern.r of Virginia

That upon Non p formance of the request of the Oneyde

Indians, that he’l Please to return their belt and String of

Wampum, because It is a Custom they have among them

to Expect their Tokens again, In case they don’t Obtain

their request


Att a meeting of the Comm.rs for Indian Affairs

in Albany the 23 May 1730

[Not in Wraxall.]


Stephanus Groesbeck

Rutger Bleecker

Abraham Cuyler

Nicholas Bleecker

Harmanus Wendell

Ryer Gerritse

Evert Wendell

Dirck Ten Broeck                   This Board haveing maturely considerd the

Circumstances of Mr. Harmanus Wendells Complaint

Against the Irregular behaviour of Some Indians

at the Small Carrying place, and Weighing the

Consequences that may dayly Ensue to the

Prejudice of the Said Wendell, and other his Majties

Subjects, and the Prevention of haveing his Majties Garrison

Furnished w.th provisions, in the manner it Ought to be

Therefore It is [the generall Conclusion of this board – crossed out] Concluded

To Send Lowrence Claesen the Interpreter to the Said Indians

to Treat w.th them on this head — and do give him the Following

Instructions for that End —


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Instructions for Lowrence Claesen

That Whereas there has been Complaint made

to this Board by Mr. Harmanus Wendell and Others that Severall

Indians at the Small Carrying place at the falls near Oswego

have committed Severall Fellonious Actions, against Sd. Wendell

in Robbing and Stealeing Rum Pork and other Provisions from

Said Wendells Battoes which were on their Voyage for furnishing

his Majesties Garrison at Oswego which Complaint haveing

been [attested – crossed out] Confirmd by Some Witnesses who were Examind at this board

on the aforesaid head – Therefore You are to go up to Onondago

w.th all Convenient Speed, and Enquire from the Indians there, into

the Truth of this Affair. And know their reasons (if any they

Can give) for behaveing themselves in So unreasonable a manner

against the Publick Welfare of his Majesty’s Subjects –

Quarterd at Oswego, who Undoubtedly must Perish in Case they

Should be guilty of Stealeing the Soldiers Provisions, which

Scandalous Complaint we hope may Prove groundless for the


And You must acquaint the Said Indians That

We in the name of his Excy Our Governour (whom we have advised with

this Affair) do heartily recommend to them to behave thems=

=elves in Such a Peaceable and amicable manner to our

brethren the Christians as may at all Times Ingratiate them into the

Favours of their King and Father, and all his Loveing

Subjects — You must Likewise request it of Our brethren at

Onondago — That they will recommend it to the Severall Indians

that Pass to and from oswego, and who are not Masters of

Retaining themselves in Such a Sober manner as they ought

to do, that they will not Tarry there, but return as Soon as their

Market is over, which we hope may Prove a Means to

Prevent any Misunderstanding for the Future

For Lowrence

2 Str. blankets

2 gatt. [gall.] Rum

28 lb bread

1 Side bacon

1 doz. knives

12 lb Tobacco


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At a meeting of the Comm.rs for Indian

[Not in Wraxall]                                 Affairs in Albany the 3.d June 1730


Ph: Livingston

Myndert Schuyler

Stephanus Groesbeck

Abraham Cuyler

Jer. Van Renselaer

Evert Wendell

Philip Schuyler

Nicholas Bleecker

Reyer Gerritse

[Dirk Ten Broeck – crossed out accidentally by decorative doodling?]

Capt. Peter Koeman haveing made Complaint at

this board that the river Indians Inhabiting on

Mussmans Island who keep horses on Sd. Island without

makeing any Fence or Inclosures to keep ym. in, from doing

damage to the Neighbourhood but Let them run at Large, so that

without any Difficulty they Swim [thro’] the river on said Koeman’s

Land & there Destroy the growth thereof — whereby he receives a

Considerable damage — And therefore Applies himselfe to this board

to have the Aforesd. Incroachmt. & Taspasses redressd for the Future in

the best Manner that may Seem agreeable to this board, in order to

Prevent any misunderstanding that may Likely Insue in this affair

without speedily redressed.

The Sachims of the Said river Indians

being Sent for Appeard before this board to whom is related the forego-

ing Complaint who thereupon do acknowledge the Trespass & damage

done Sd. Koeman by their horses — wherefore It is Told them that

if they will keep horses they must for the future keep them within

a Sufficient Inclosure to prevent any future damage, that if their

horses Come on his Land for time to come & Such Care not taken that they

do no Damage to Said Koeman on his said Land we have Assur’d them

that upon the first Complaint of the Like nature we Shall send for

their horses & Detain them untill they repair Such damages as may be

Committed, and Shall detain Koemans horses in the Like manner in

case there be any damage done by them on their Land.

Therefore the Sachims do Promise to perform what is

Layed upon them by this board on their parts —


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At a Meeting of the Comm.rs for

Indian Affairs in Albany ye 13.th June


[Not in Wraxall.]


Ph: Livingston

J. Schuyler

Evert Wendell

John Cuyler

Jer. V. Renselaer

Ph: Schuyler

Peter V. Brugh

Dirck Ten Broeck

Reyer Gerritse

St. Groesbeeck

Evert Banker               That Notwithstanding a Firm promise & Treat=

=ty the river Indians Enterd into before this board on the

13th May Last That they nor none of them should

Molest or Trouble Coll.o Hendrick van Renselaer in

the Peaceable Possion & Enjoyment of a Tract of land

called Squampames at Claverack Yet the said Coll.o

Van Renselaer has made a Second Complaint that some

of the Said river Indians have Since Enterd by Force & arms

on said Land & beat his horses to the ground & drove them and

his People from the land, Whereupon this board have sent for

Some to the Sachims who do appear to whom has been repeat-

-ed the Contents of this affair, & have desired that they Shall

as Soon as Possible send for those three Indians whom they blame for

this Irregular action so that they may be before this board to give

Satisfaction for the same which if they neglact to do must give us room to

believe that they are guilty of the Misdemeanors Charg’d ag.st them and

that if they dont bring them According to order that this board Shall cause

them to be brought by our Sherriff; and that if he cant Take them that we

have Assured them that they may Expect the Issue that will follow by

Coll.o Renselaer & his Tenants if they attempt the Same again who will

certainly do themselves Justice & therefore they must blame themselves for

the Consequence that probably may Insue on this affair

Whereupon the Sachims have promised to bring the three Indians

before this board as Soon as possible in order to render Satisfaction to

the Complainants in this Affair


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At a meeting of the Comm.rs of Indian Affairs

in Albany the 17th June 1730

[Not in Wraxall.]


Joh.s Cuyler

Ab. Cuyler

St. Groesbeck

Nicholas Bleeker

Evert Wendell

John Schuyler             Lourence Claesen being returnd from Onondago Pursu=

=ant to his Instructions of 23d Ultimo — Do’s acquaint this board that

he had Treated w.th the Sachims there agreeable to his Instructions to

know their reasons for Abuseing and Robbing the Batoes Laden w.th

provisions for the use of his majesties Garrison at osweego — which said

sachims by a token of Seven hands of wampum do Assure us that

notwithstanding they Cant Say but there has been some missbehavi=

=our in some of their brethren – yet they do earnestly request that

we may Excuse this fault in as much that nothing of the Like nature

Shall Cause any missunderstanding for the future beteen [sic] them & us in

regard that they will Take Care to keep their People in a Discipline

for Time to Come


Albany the 18th June 1730

[Not in Wraxall.]

May It please your Excellency

The Inclosed from oswego of 9th Instant

brings the malencholly news of Death of Jacob Brower one of

our Traders, who going there has been barbarously Murdered

at the Falls by an Indian of Onondago Names Kindiacko, w.ch

Inhuman action affoards us So much Concern that we are

much at a Stand how to Act in the Affair.  However we are of

Opinion that the Indians will Come down of their own accord

to apply themselves to us on this Malencholly head, which

We Should much rather have than that we Should be

Oblidged to Send for them It is a main Article in the Covenant

Constantly renewed by the Six Nations with the Governours

of this Colony that whensoever they Should commit any

Mischief that then they were bound to Come here to make

Satisfaction for Such breaches as they had made in their


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We are at a Loss how to Act for the better in this

Critical Affair unless we are Assisted by Instructions from

your Excellency and that as Soon as it Shall Please your

Excellency to Favour us therewith — We Enclose the

Minutes of our Proceedings Since our Last of 19.th Ult.o

for your Excy’s Perusall — And are with great Esteem

and Respect     &c.

Att a Meeting of the Comm.rs for Indian

Affairs in Albany the 24th June 1730.

[Not in Wraxall.]


Ph: Livingston

Myndert Schuyler

Rutger Bleecker

Ab: Cuyler

Evert Bleecker

Harmanus Wendell

Reyer Gerritse

Johannis Lansingh

Nicholaes Bleecker

Barent Saunders

Dirck Ten Broeck                   That Mankan one of the sachims of the river Indi-

-and Indians [sic] being Sent Last year from this board to a farr

Nation of Indians Called the Yonondages to Treat w.th them

according to Instructions from us the said Mankan being

returnd Comes by a Token of a Few Skins and a belt of wam-

=pum from the aforesd. Nation to acquaint us that the said

Nation do reauest to renew their Covenant with us &

make it firm & good as heretofore that the path between them

and us is open and Clear therefore they are willing and ready to

continue the same good understanding that hitherto has been between

them and us

But he relates that there is a generall com=

=plaint among the far Indians that when any of them are Inclin’d

to come & Trade w.th their brethren the Christians at Osweego they are

disincouraged by bad Treatment that Severall of them have met

[line crosse out appears to say “so bad Treatment that severall of them have mett with”] with

this Mess.r himselfe was an eye witness to wit that there Lie

People in the Lake who make it there business to attack the

Indians Passing that way & by Force take away their bever &

y.r goods & Imbezle them so that they gett no farther Acc.o of them

and therefore the farr Indians in Generall will decline Comeing

there to Trade for the future unless there be a Stop Put to this un=

=reasonsonable usage — They Likewise desire to Smoake w.th this


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Board out of a Pipe sent from the sd. Nations to Smoake

in Friendship w.th us & to Continue a Lasting Peace & good

understanding between us & do thereby Signifie yt. they desire

their young People who Travall to & fro to trade w.th the Christians

may be better treated then Formerly

NB Sold at Publick Ven Due the above Skins vizt.

14 ld Dr. deer Skins    … a 2/10          £1.19.8

3 lt bever ………….         a 6/5                 19.3




At a Meeting of the Comm.rs for Indian

Affairs in Albany the 4th July 1730

[Not in Wraxall.]


Myndert Schuyler

Evert Bancker

Rutger Bleecker

Johannes Schuyler

Hendrick V. Renselaer

Stephanus Groesbeck

Jer Van Renselaer

Johannes Cuyler

Abraham Cuyler

Reyer Gerritse

Barent Sanders

Evert Wendell

Nicholas Bleecker

Dirck Ten Broeck                               Some of the Sachims of the Onondago’s

and Mohawks Indians being come hither to

Condole the Death of Jacob Brower who was

unhappily Murderd by Kindiacko an Indian

of Onondago; Do Offer themselved in the foll

Submissive manner to this board, in order to

Repair the Loss of their brother deceased in the

best manner that they are able

Brethren          We are Come hither to make

Attonement for the unhappy Loss of our brother

Jacob Brower, in as ample a Manner as we are able

and Desire your favourable Audience to what we have to Say

Our Forefathers have Constantly kept a good Understanding

w.th their brethren the Christians but there has & Do’s happen

Casualties that occasion a Misunderstanding between us

which affords us no Small Concern

Brethren          As we have Told you our Errand is

to Salve this Malencholly action, and to Treat of this matter

from a Long Standing, It is True there was a Murder


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Committed at Claverack by Two Onondago Indians and one

of the Aggressors was hangd but the other made his Escape

which we Take to be Satisfaction for that Murder

Brethren          We Continue to Sum up the missunderstand

=ings that has happend between us. There was a Murder

Committed here in Albany by one of your Christians upon a

Mohawk Indian who was deliverd up to our Mercy and

We were Inform’d that he was Condemd to die for that Fact

Thereupon we Forgave the Murderer, for that we thought

if one Should Suffer for the Other, it might make a breach

in our Covenant — We must Further remind you that one of

your Christians Committed a Murder in the Sinnekes Country

on one of the Chiefest Sachims of that Nation, upon which

our Principall Fighting young men would have Taken

Revenge for that blood, but our Sachims haveing better

Consulted together on that head, and withheld them from

that attempt, they in a body of the Five Nations Tenderd

the Murderer up to our brethren in Albany to the Superior

Powers that they might Do with him as they thought

Proper, by whom he was Tryed and Condemned to die, and

then Deliverd to us again Then we Considering farther

That if we Took Life for Life, it would make us appear like

men out of our Naturall reason, and more Like drunken

men, and Occasion a breach in our Covenant the Issue of

which might Prove a War between us, So we Surrenderd the

Criminall wholely up to the Christians who Pardond him

We Still Continue to remind you that one of our brethren

an Onondago Indian was rode over by your People upon the

high way between Albany and Schinectady, of which he died

but there was no Notice Taken of it – We have now done to

Sum up the many murders and unhappy Accidents that

have happend between you and us, but Still we must

remind you of the many Murders that have happend

among our Selves, which have Chiefly been occasiond by

the Strong Liquor you Send to Sell us, and Since the

Tradeing house has been Erected at oswego, we Can’t

Repeat you the Innumerable Indians that have Murderd




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Each other as well the farr Nations as our own that come to

Trade there, Insomuch that you may find graves upon graves

along the Lake, all w.ch Misfortunes are Occasiond by Selling

Rum to Our brethren; but Still we have reconciled those murders

Without in the Least Looking for revenge or desireing blood for blood

Brethren          We have numberd up the Severall Transgress

=ions between us, now We Treat upon the Antient Covenant

between you and us, how firm it from Time to time has been

Preserved and Confirm’d as well by us as you, nay there has

not been as much as the Least Flaw or mark made therein

on Either Side — We would have you to understand us by

the words Flaw or Mark, We mean that there has been no

Inlet for the Least Quarrel or War between us Occasion’d

thereby, and Notwithstanding that Nations do Sometimes

Wage Warr w.th Each other; Yet they do oftimes Come to an

Amicable understanding Again

Brethren          Upon the first Settlement of this

Countrey, our Forefathers Enterd into their first Alliance w.th

the Christians to Trade Soon after w.ch there arrived a Ship

which our Forefathers together Layed fast at Anchor in

this Harbour, and after they came to a better understanding

they Enterd into Covenant together that they Should be one

head, one heart, one blood and one body, and whilst we are so

one head one body, there is an ax Sticks out of all our heads

upon w.ch we Lay down this belt of Wampum to Pull out that ax

Brethren          To our great Concern it has happend that

of Late, one of our brethren has Murderd one of your People

And thereupon we and the Mohawks Indians do Joyntly

give an other belt of Wampum as a Token of our great Concern

And to Interr the Corps of our friend & brother Deceasd, accord=

=ing to a Maxim usuall among us

Brethren          We Intreat you That your Governour

and Legislators may make Such wholesome Laws as


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May oblidge the Subjects to behave themselves in a Circum

=spect and orderly manner, and not to Carry themselves as

Drunkards or Madmen and Likewise that those Invested with

Such Legislative Power may Exercise their Authority according

=ly, That it may Tend to Peace and Tranquility among us

Brethren          We Speak as well to you in authority as the

Subjects under you we know that you are all aggrevated for

the Late Loss of our brother and for as  much That we know

there Lies a Grudge ag.t us on this Occasion Therefore we

Lay down Another belt of Wampum, to Wash off (w.th Living

Water) any Malice or Spleen that may Lie at your hearts

in this Malencholly Affair

Brethren          Just now we were under a Cloud

And Sat as under darkness, and now we Desire that we

may Shine forth in Light again, as Clear as the Sun Shines

without your harbouring any Malice at your hearts and

Live together in an Amicable Temper

Brethren          When you first Came here and

Anchord the first Ship here, wee Took Each other as broth:rs

and Soon after we made a Covenant w.th you (That is to Say) a

Strong Silver Chain w.ch was Inviolable, and w.ch Link’d us

[G]ave a belt hand in hand in brothership and Friendship, w.ch Chain we

now w.th the Mohawks Nation Joyntly renew & Strengthen

it was Likewise Assured us that in Case there Should

any Flaw or breach Come in that Chain, w.ch was then

above ground that then there was another underground

w.ch Could not be Damaged by rust or any Other Penetrateing



Our desire is that you will use

your Utmost Endeavours to Preserve the peace, and Let

us not behave our Selves as Drunkards and Madmen,

to the Scandall of our Selves, and the great Satisfaction

of our Neighbouring Enemies (Especially the French of


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of Canada) who rejoyce themselves in Such our weak behaviour

It has been from Time to Time recommended to us to draw the farr

Indians to Trade hither, w.ch we have done and that would be a

means that goods Should be Cheaper, wherefore we desire that

goods may Continue Cheap, for the Trade is a main Article in

the Covenant Chain

Brethren          We have acquainted the Six

Nations of our Journey hither but have not Invite them

to Accompany us but in our Passage the Mohawks offering

their Assistance we accepted thereof, And our Comeing to meet

you here is Entirely to Condole the Loss of our brother deceas’d

as farr as we are able, but we Shall in a body of the Princip=

=all Sachims of the Six Nations Come and make a further

Attonement for this Loss and w.th a generall Voice Condole

our Friend

The answer of the Comm:rs for Indian Affairs to

the Onondago and Mohawks Sachims who

Came to Condole the death of Jacob Brower deced


as in the foregoing


Brethren          We have Attentively heard what you had

to Say relateing the murder Committed on the body of Jacob

Brower by your brother Kindiacko; and Marking your

Severall Propositions on that head, we Shall now Answer you

in Such a manner as is Consistant w.th so barbarous an


Brethren          We observe you hint and remind us of

Severall Murders Committed on our Sides as well as yours

w.ch we note Exactly, Vizt. in the first place of one at Claverack

where were Cutt of Two men Two women and Two Children,

by the Onondago Indians for w.ch there was one hangd which

We must Tell you was a most Inhuman Action done without

the Least Provocation


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We acknowledge there was a Mohawks Indian named

David killd here by a Soldier, and we Likewise Confess that

there was a Chief Sachim of the Sinnekes killed in that

Countrey by one Dirck Bradt both w.ch unhappy accidents

were & Still are of much Concern to us and the Aggressors

by the Laws of God & Man Deserved death but upon the

Sollicitation of our brethren the Five Nations they were

Acquitted and banish’d

We remark that you Acquaint us of an Onondago

Indian being rode to death by a Wagoner but to answer that we

must Tell you, that we had Strictly Examind into that affair

and found that he was accessory himself thereto, it being

upon the Kings high road, where all People are to Stand

Clear, and therefore we Deem that no more than An accident

Such a one as happend to a Daughter of Coll.o Schuyler in

this City, who accidentally was rode to Death by a Slay, and

which by no Laws of God or man Can be accounted murder

Therefore we have never made any Mention to Our brethren

the Six Nations of that Accident happening the Onondago


Brethren          We Come now to remind you of many

unhappy Murders, w.ch you have Omitted to Take notice of in

your Proposition, and for as much that you have hinted us of

Some, we think we Cannot Omitt Signifying them relateing

on Our Side to you Vizt. a young girl daughter of a Gentlem

=an in this Town, who was Murderd over against the Flatts

where Coll.o Philip Schuyler now Lives

Brethren          You have Likewise omitted another murder

Committed by Some of your five Nations, on one of His Majties

Inhabitants named Joseph Sapee at Skohere, who was there

barbarously Murderd, and another Dangerously wounded

at the Same Time, but we are Informd that the Oneydes Acted

rightly in Executing the Murderer

Brethren          We Can’t forbear to Acquaint you that

there is also a Sqwaw of the Schaakthook Indians a Sachims


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Wife murderd without any reason by an Onondago Indian as

Likewise a Mohawk Called Kanaghquisacki, So that in gen.l

to Our Sorrow We find that the Onondago Indians are most

guilty of murder of any of the Other five Nations, but we Expect

that the Sachims will recommend the Onondago Indians are

most guilty of Murder of any of the other Five Nations [sic] but we

Expect that the Sachims will recommend the Onondago

Indians to behave themselves better for the Future

Brethren          You have Informd us That there has

been severall murders Committed among your Selves and the

farr Nations as you Say Occasion’d by the Rum Rum is

a Comodity that has been Time out of mind made use of

between your People and ours, but we acknowledge that

Sometimes you have requested that it Should not be Sold

you, and at Other Times again that it Should be Sold you

and when it was So Prohibited you went to New York and

Other Places for it, but however we must Tell you that

among the Christians, if one kills another in his drink

he must by the Law Suffer for Such a Fact So that the fault

Cannot Lie in the Rum

Brethren          You request that for the future we

may walk together in Light w.ch we are very Desirous Shou’d

be So, and Shall not be wanting on our Side, but Brethren

we Cannot Omitt Telling you what a generall Complaint there

is from our Traders at oswego of the ill usage they receive

there from your Onondago Indians who plunder our

People daily of their goods and Rum; for which reasons we

Sent Lowrence Claese to Treat w.th your Nation on that head

who brought us a very agreeable report from you, and before

he returnd we heard the Surprizeing news of the Inhuman

Murder of our Dear brother Jacob Brower and it Afforded

us the more Surprize that it was Committed without any

Provocation and in Cold blood


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And after the Said Murderer had killed Jacob Brower

then he Endeavourd to murder John Roseboom Jun.r by

Taking Two guns, one after the Other to Shoot the Sd. Roseboom

w.ch he in his own Defence wrested out of the Indians hands

and threw them in the river by which he preservd his own

Life, and after all this he Took up a Stone and Told Roseboom

you must Still Die, all w.ch was done in Presence of three

Onondago Indians, who moved not in the Least to prevent

this barbarous Murderer in his bloody Designs, where=

=upon Roseboom was oblidged to make the best of his way

w.th the Corps of Brower in the Canoe and repair to Oswego

Brethren          You have desired us to regulate our

People in their behaviour and required that our Legislat=

=ive Powers, might make Laws for that End as a Means

to Preserve the Peace and Quietness of the Countrey which

we have hitherto Done, and Shall Continue to do for the

good of the Publick and Peace and Tranquility of the

People, and we Earnestly recommend the Same may [be]

done by you and your People

Brethren          You have renew’d your Coven.t

And we Do the Same on our Side, w.ch we Shall preserve

Inviolable, and while you have Acquainted us that you

had Informd the Six Nations of your Comeing hither

on this Malencholly Errand, and further that you

Designb w.th the Sachims of the Six Nations to Come to

make another Condolation on this head, which we

receive very Agreeable Therefore we Shall Lay this whole

Affair before his Excellency our Governour, when he Comes

here to Treat w.th you Whereupon we give a belt of



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Albany the 7:th July 1730

[Not in Wraxall.]

May it Please Your Excellency

Since our Last of the 18.th ult.o

Some Sachims of Onondago assisted by some Mohawks Came

Down according to our Expectation w.th whom we Treated on

the Tragicall Affair of the murder of Jacob Brower in as

Cautious a manner as we thought was Consistant w.th preserv=

=ing a good understanding between Such Savages on So

bloody an Action, Especially when we were not assisted by

Instructions from your Excy. on this head, for which we

have Since our Last waited daily Expectant We Can

offer no more on this head but referr your Excy to the

Enclosed Minutes for a Fuller View in this malencholly

Affair — The Sinnekes haveing usually been gratified

in haveing a Smith and Armourer Sent up to work for them

and Robert Lansingh w.th Claes Van Petten Jun.r haveing

Voluntarily offerd their Service for this year, Therefore

we have Consented that they Proceed in that Service

and thought it our Duty to acquaint your Excy. thereof

Who remain &c.


Albany the 24.th July 1730

[Not in Wraxall.]

May it Please Your Excellency

We Take Leave to Inform Your

Excy. that last year Coll.o Renselaer recover’d (by due course

of Law) in the Supream Court a Certain Tract of Land called

Squampamet near Claverack in this County from one Gysbert

Scherpe, and was in Pursuance thereof Put into Legall

Possession, yet notwithstanding that Judgement sd. Scherpe

has built a house without the Fence on Said Land

That Some of the river Indians do Molest

Said Renselaer in Possession of his Said Land after


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Severall Promises to the Contrary as your Excy. may

observe by our Minutes Transmitted to you, and particularly

the Sachims have Since made a Solemn promise that Said

Renselaer and his Tenants Should reap his Corn and

other Crop on his Said Lands undisturbed, and as to their

Claim to Said Lands they wou’d be Satisfied and Abide by

the Determination of your Excy. at your Comeing here whether

the Said Land was bought and Paid by Said Renselaer or

his Ancestors — That now the Sd. Indians in breach and

Violation of all their Promises have Employed four of their

People to reap Renselaers Corn w.ch they have done & Still

Proceed after a Fourth promise that he Should Lodge his

Crop in his barn — We therefore Entreat your Excy. to

Consider of this unreasonable usage; and hope your Excy.

will be pleas’d to relieve Coll.o Renselaer therein as Shall

Seem most agreeable to your Excy. Who are &c.


Albany the 20.th August 1730

[Not in Wraxall.]

May It Please Your Excellency

We are honourd w.th your Excellency’s

Favours of the 4.th Inst. whereby Perceive you have been

Pleas’d to Lay before His Majesties Councill, Our Minutes

Relateing the Murder Committed on Jacob Brower, by

Kindiacko an Onondago Indian, and observe Your Excy’s

Displeasure on the answer of the Sachims on that

Subject; We Assure Your Excellency that in their deliver=

=ing their Said Answer, it was by no means acceptable.

We were at a Loss how to Act in Such a Criticall an

Affair without Your Excellencys Previous directions,

knowing that we had to do with a Subtile barbarous

People, who at the best Find out Veils to Cover their

black and Villanous Actions, and we were Sensible

that our Demanding the Murderer would have proved

Ineffectuall — It will Certainly have more weight and


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Impression on them if done by Your Ex:cy in person at

your Meeting the Six Nations here, w.ch we hoped would

have been this Season, but Since Your Excy. has been

Prevented by other Publick Affairs, We hope we may have

the honour to See Your Ex.cy here the Ensuing Spring, to

Treat w.th them — And in regard that the Indians did

Expect your Ex:cy’s meeting them here this Fall, and are

uneasy about it. Therefore we Can think of no better method

to Settle their minds and keep them Easy, than that your

Ex:cy be pleas’d to Direct that Lowrence Claese be Sent as

Soon as May be to Acquaint them that your Ex.cy will

Certainly meet them Early in the Spring — haveing no more

to Communicate we remain w.th great Esteem and respect &c.


At a meeting of the Comm.rs

for Ind. Affairs in Albany the 20.th Aug. 1730

[Not in Wraxall.]


Ph. Livingston

Myndert Schuyler

John Schuyler

Evert Bancker

Evert Wendell

Stephanus Groesbeck

Joh.s Cuyler

Abraham Cuyler

Harman Wendell

Nicholas Bleecker

Philip Schuyler

Johannes Lansingh

Reyer Gerritse

Barent Sanders

Hend. V. Renselaer

Jer. V. Renselaer                     It is fully Concluded and orderd

by This Board, That as the Sinnike

Indians have heretofore usually been

gratified on haveing a Smith and Armourer

and the foll persons haveing by themselves & others &

offerd their Service to go to the Sinnekes Country gratis

to Work for them — Orderd Therefore That

Claes Ven Petten Jun. Elias Post Abrah=

=am Wendell, Abraham Schuyler, Cornelius

Ten Broeck, Gerardus Bancker, Evert

Harmanus Wendell, Sybrant Van Schaick,

and Hendrick Myndert Roseboom Do

Proceed on their Voyage for that Service

for which they are to have Instructions according-



[0656] 326

At a meeting of the Comm.rs for Indian

Affairs at Albany the 22nd Aug.t 1730

[Not in Wraxall.]


Evert Bancker

St. Groesbeck

Joh.s Cuyler

Ab. Cuyler

Evert Wendell

Nicholas Bleecker

Harmanus Wendell

Dirck Ten Broeck

Reyer Gerritse

Johannes Lansingh

Barent Sanders                        Whereas Claes Van Petten

Jun. and Elias Post, Smiths Appointed

by our order of the 20.th Instant (and Robert

Lansingh by our letter to his Ex.cy of the 7.th July

Last) to go in Company w.th others in Said order

named to work this Ensuing winter for the

Sinneke Indians, have Declined going upon

that Service — Therefore Barnardus Hartsen

haveing offerd himselfe to go as Smith & Armourer

for the Said Sinneke Indians, to be Accompanied by Joh.s

Van Veghten Jun.r Johannes Hendrickse Ten Eyck and

William Fisher, together w.th all the persons named in

our aforesaid order of 20.th Instant Except the said Claes

Van Petten Jun. Elias Post and Robert Lansingh

It is therefore agreed w.th the Said Barnardus

Hartsen That he Shall go as Smith and Armourer for

the Said Indians this Winter, for w.ch Service this Board

have agreed to give the Said Barnardus Hartsen a proper

Certificate at his return from Said Service to be paid the

Sum of  £15:-:- by the Government for w.ch purpose they

Shall have Instructions agreeable to this Resolution

Instructions for Abraham Wendell,

Barnardus Hartsen, Abraham Schuyler,

Cornelius Ten Broeck, Gerardus Bancker

Evert Harmanus Wendell, Sybrant V. Schaick

Hendrick Myndertse Roseboom, Johannes

Van Veghten Jun.r Johannes H. Ten Eyck

and William Fisher

Whereas The Sinnekes Indians are usually

gratified to have a Smith and Armourer Sent up to work

For them Every winter and We Considering That It is

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It is Consistant w.th the Interest of this Government to hum=

=our that Nation in the aforesaid Small request, And as ye

have Voluntarily Offerd your Services (Except the Smith who

goes for £15:-:- upon Credit of the Province) and Looking upon

you the Persons abovementioned to be fitt and Qualified to

Act in this Service

Therefore We do order and Direct That you

go in Company and that Abraham Wendell Act as Interpreter

in this Service, Barnardus Hartsen as Smith and Armourer

And the Other Persons abovenamed to Act in Conjuntion w.th

the Said Abraham Wendell and Barnardus Hartsen

According to the best of their Ability for the good of the

Publick, and generally that you Act and proceed in such

Unanimity and Friendship, as Shall Tend to the Interest

of this Government, and to the Content and Satisfaction of

the Indians — Wherefore upon your Arrivall at the Sinn=

=ekes Castle Called Canossodago, You and Each of you are

in the name of His Ex.cy John Montgomerie Esq.r our Governour

to Demand from the Said Sinneke Sachims, or Such pson

or Persons as you Shall find there resideing, All the Smiths

Utencills and Tools together w.th the Shop, from Such Person

or Persons who Shall or may have Such Utencills and Tools

belonging to the publick in his or their Custody Possession,

or power, and all Persons Concern’d are hereby Strictly

Chargd and Commanded to Deliver the aforesaid Utencills

Tools and Shop and Every part thereof unto you, as he or

they Shall Answer the Contrary at their Perill, And as Soon

as you Shall have the Said Tools, Utencills & Shop in your

Custody & Care, You the abovenamed Persons or the Major

Part of you Are to Act according to the best of your knowledg

=es for the good of the publick & the satisfaction of the sd. Sinneke

Indians, and you and Each of you are to remain & Abide in the

aforesd. Service untill the End of this next Ensuing winter, and

from time to Time to remitt unto us an account of what Shall

or may happen dureing your Residence there Given under

our Hands in Albany this 24th of August 1730


[0658] 327[Summarized in Wraxall p. 179.]

Att a meeting of the Commissio=

=ners of Indian Affairs of the city of

Albany this 21st Day of Sep 1730


Abraham Cuyler

Reyer Gerritse

Evert Banker

Johannis Lansingh

Stephanus Groesbeeck

Rutger Bleecker

Nicholaes Bleecker

Dirck Ten Broeck

Johannis Schuyler

Evert Wendell                         This day came before this board three Sachims

the maqua Indians called Taraghiores Totquaries

and Onoghquaghhoghqua and Spoake in the behalf

of the two Castells of Maquaas Indians vizt.


Some time past this Sumer we were resolv’d to go

to New York in order to Speak to his Excellency but when we

came here in Albany this board inform’d us that the Governor

was not att New york and thereupon we return’d back again

and Defer’d our message till his Excellency Should come up

to albany but now finding that his Excellency doth not come

up this Summer we resolv’d to deliver our Mesage to this board

with desire That you’l Communicate our proposition to his



as we live under a Strong cove=

=nant Chain being one heart one body & one head we must

acquaint you That the most part of our Lands on the maquas

river is sold to the Christians & our hearts grives us when we

Consider what small parcell of Lands is remaining to us and

finding by the Intirement of Christians that our young men

give ear to Dispose yett more of that Small remainder and

Then we will be utterly Distroyd & Scattered among the french

& other and by means thereof the Covenant Chain will be broken

[0659] 327a

Broken, we therefore humbly Intreat his Excellency and

this board that for the future all Christians may be strictly

forbid to intice any of our Indians to purchase any of our

Lands & that his Excellency will be pleased to prevent all manner

of persons to purchase any more of our lands that remains

yet unsold —

In order that we & our Children & postainaly [posterity]

May live there quiet and peaceable as brethren as we have

done hitherto & keep the Covenant chain firm whereupon they

lay down five beaver Skins


Albany the 21th Septemb. 1730

May it please your Excy

This inclosed is a preposition of three ma-

quas Sachims we are humbly of opinion that your Ex.cy

approveing of their request will Certainly Tend for the [good of the – crossed out]

publick good & Tranquilty which is the needfull at psent from

your Excys

most humble & most obedient Servant


[0660] 328

Albany ye. 3 October 1730

[Wraxall mention p. 180.]

Instructions for Lowrence Claese Pursuant to his

Excy’s Letter of the 26.th Septemb 1730


You are hereby Required to go forthwith to

Onnondage & to acquaint the Sachims of the six Nations

that his Excell.cy was Intended to meet them here this fall

but by reason of the Generall Assemblys Sitting so late in the

year was hindred of his Intent,

You are therefore to acquaint them that his

Excy. Intends to meet them early Next Summer at albany; &

that his Excy will before that time send them timely notice of

the day of his meeting them


Evert Banker

Rutger Bleecker

Johannis Cuyler

Ab: Cuyler

Nicholaes Bleecker

Reyer Gerritse

Dirck Ten Broeck


[0661] 328a [Wraxall summary p. 180.]

Att a Meeting of the Comm.rs for Indian

Affairs the 24th October 1730


Rutger Bleecker

Stephanus Groesbeeck

Johannis Cuyler

Abraham Cuyler

Dirck Ten Broeck

Nicholaes Bleecker

Reyer Gerritse

Evert Wendell                         In pursuance of his Excel.ys directions by a let=

=ter dated 6:th instant we acquainted one of the Sachims

of Kanojohery that he should acquaint the sachims of

both Castles at the mohaw[k]s Country that we had acquain=

=ted his Ex:cy our Governour w:th their request in respect of

not Suffering their lands to be sold to which he answer’d

that he comply’d with there request & that none of their

lands shall be sold but that he would further treat w:th them on that

head at his Meeting them here next Summer.


Att a Meeting of the Comm.rs of Indian affairs

at Albany the 2d. November 1730 [See Wraxall p. 180.]


Joh.s Cuyler

Ab: Cuyler

Peter van Brugh

St. Groesbeeck

Rutger Bleecker

Reyer Gerritse

Evert Wendell             Lourence Claesen the interpreter being return’d

from Onondage do’s inform the Comm.rs that he had been

there agreable to his instructions of the 3d October last and had

acquainted the Six Nations w:th the Ocasion of his Excellencys

not meeting them this year; & at the same time, did tell

them that his Excellency did intend to meet them early

next Summer to w.ch they reply’d that they have hitherto expected

his Excys. Comeing as usuall or that his Excy: would send them notice

of his not comeing but for as much as he is interrupted by other

publick business they are Satisfyed to his Excellencys pleasure.


[0662] 329

Att a Meeting of the Commissioners for Indian

Affairs in Albany the 23.d November 1730.

[Printed in DRCHNY 5: 910 et seq.; Wraxall summary p. 180-181]]


Philip Livingston

Myndert Schuyler

Rutger Bleecker

Evert Wendell

Dirck Ten Broeck                   That in Lowrence Claese’s return from Ononda=

=go he dos further Inform this board that he mett with an

Indian of the six Nations, who told him that one Jean

Ceure a French Officer and Interpreter was in the Sinnekes

Country & had Some French Soldiers with him, which said Jean Ceure

told the said Sinneke Indians that he haveing disoblidg’d his Gover=

=nour was Duckd whipd & banish’d as a Malefactor & sayd that as

he had been a prisoner among that Nation & that then his life was

in their hands, & as they have Saved his life, he therefore deem’d himself

to be a Coherent brother to that Nation, and therefore he prayd that they

might Grant him toleration to build a trading house at a place Called

Tiederondequatt at the Side of the Kaderachqua lake about Ten

Leagues from the Sinneke country, & is about midle way oswego and

Yagero, which place the foreign Indians Especially must & repass to &

from Osweego. & frequently the Foreign Indians Stop there & go by land

to the Sinnekes to furnish themselves with provisions. & the Sinnekes

very often repass that way from their beaver hunting — And that he the

Said Jean Ceure entreating & beggd the Sinnekes that they would grant

him liberty to build the aforesaid Trading house at that place, in order

that he might gett his livelihood by tradeing there & that he might

keep some Soldiers to work for him there whom he promis’d should

not molest, or use any hostility to his brethren the Sinnekes. which

aforesaid Treaty of Jean Ceure is Confirm’d by a report we have from

one of the Gentlemen of this board that he was informd the same by

another Indian of the aforesaid Nations — & we have Received

a Letter from Abraham Wendell, Barnardus Hartsen and Company

from the Sinnekes Country dated the 12:th October last, whereby we are

advisd the Nation of Indians called the Foxes had sent Two red

Stone Axes to the warring young men of the Sinnekes, who gave them

to the Sachims & they gave them to the Governour of Canada because

he was at war with them. Moreover there was no requst therein as

they Sayd, but we are Assured by the aforesaid Letter that those


[0663] 329a

Axes were Sent upon Some request — all w.ch Mons.r Jean Ceure

Confirm by Telling our Company there, that the Sinnekes Indians

had given them two stone axes which the Foxes had Sent to them

requesting that they might live and Settle among them but Jean

Ceure sayd that he had sent them to his Governour, And that he

had told the indians that if in Case they should admitt the foxes

to Settle among them, that then the french and english together

would Come & Cutt off their Castles while they were now united in one

body, and further told our people that he design’d to stay there this

Ensueing winter in the small Castle upon the Subject of the two axes

Whereupon it is resolved to write the following Letter to Abra=

=ham Wendell Barnardus Hartsen & Company now posted in the

Sinnekes Country


Albany 23.d November 1730 [Wraxall p. 181]


We received your Letter of the 12:th October last and

we are glad that you are all in good health but we understand there=

=by that Mons.r Jean Ceure has been Tampering with the Sinnekes

in a very odd Manner in order to Shelter himselfe among those Indians

we likewise perceive by your Letter that the foxes had sent two red

Stone axes to the warring young men of the Sinnekes who gave them to the                                                           sachims, and they to the

Governour of Canada because there was no request thereby as they sayd

but Jean Ceure told you that there was a request by the two axes, &

that he had sent them to the Governour of Canada, That the Foxes

had desir’d that they might come & Live among them, & that Jean

Ceure Told them that in case they should admitt the foxes to settle

among them, that then the French & English would come & cutt

there Castles off, upon Considering of w:ch your Letter & this affair,


[0664] 330

We desire that you tell them that we do not think it strang[e]

that those indians have been endeavouring to gett liberty, to

Settle & shelter themselves among the Sinnekes, and we are

much more Surpriz’d that they have not Encouraged those indian[s]

to Come to live among them. while they are a wise people, and have

taken much pains to go to war to take prisoners to strengthen

themselves. & Shoud they now refuse a whole nation of Indians

to Come and live in the Sinnekes country — and we think it very

Strange that they have delivered the two red axes to Jean Ceure

in order to be sent to the Governour of Canada while we expected

that they should have sent the same to our Governour in w:ch you

may tell them that they have been much wanting in their duty.

you may also tell the Sinnekes that as to waht jean Ceure told

them that in Case they should come & settle among them the French

and English would Come & cutt them off — you must tell the indians

as to that what was the reason that the french did not assist the

English when the Anogongaars Indians warrd with them while

the English & french were in Friendship but instead thereof suppli=

=ed the said indians with powder & lead &c – against the english and

therefore tell them that we desire that they will by all means

invite the nation of the foxes to Come & settle among them it being

what Constantly has been recommended to them by all Governours

to invite & encourage as many Indians to settle among them as

possibly they Could for that is a means to Strengthen them, and that

we wonder since the french have so often Deceived them with false

stories that they Cannot apprehend that the meaning of the French

is to hinder the said Nation to Come to Settle among them, and by

means thereof to keep the five nations low — and we Cannot think

that while they are sensible that we always have been one head,

one heart and one body that they should suspect that we should

joyn with any nation to do them harm for on the Contrary the cove=

=nant Chain between the six Nations & us is that we shall help each

other when theres any necessity for it. & hereupon you must lay

down a blanket strouds to renew the Covenant — And since M.sr

[0665] 330a

M.sr Jean Ceure has told the Indians that he was banishd out

of Canada &c. & that he pretended to be a Native of the Sinnekes

Country. & thereupon desired Liberty to build a trading house

there at A place Called Tiederondequatt in order that he may

keep some Soldiers there w:th him to work for him. we therefore in

his Excy. our Governour’s name desire that you’l heartily request

it of the Indians not to grant him any Land or Suffer him to

build. for that they cannot be Sensible that a man who has been

banishd out of his Country, Cannot have so much Command as to

have Soldiers under him but on the Contrary his design is un=

=der pretence of building a trading house, he will encroach so

farr on their Land till he builds a fort as the French have done

at Kadaraghque & Jagara; where they first build trading

houses & then trund them into Forts by w.ch means they endeavour

to keep the six Nations under — we desire that you’l take good

notice what Jean Ceure do’s this Winter in the Sinnekes Country

and let us hear from Time to Time of his Management there


Albany the 26th November 1730

[Printed in DRCHNY 5: 909 et seq. with signatures and additional last paragraph. See Wraxall p. 182.]

May it Please your Excellency

By the Enclosed Minutes your Excy will

Perceive what Information we lately received from the Sinnekes

Country, That the French Intended to make a Settlementy at

Tiederondequat only 50 or 60 Miles from our Garrison at Oswego

in the Passage of the Sinnekes from their hunting and of the farr [of -crossed out]

Indians from their Country to us, w.ch attempt is as we Conceive a

Manifest breach of the Treaty of Peace and Commerce between

our Crown and that of France — And if we must calmly Submitt

to this Incroachment to have our Trade cutt off at one blow, we are

a ruin’d People — We are also Informd that the French are to

build a Fort at the Crown point – at the South Side of Corlaers

Lake, but 120 miles from this Place Perhaps on Pretence to Intercept

and Prevent the Trade of the Indians hither and to Canada


[0666] 331

Which is also against Said Treaty, and w.ch is not the only

Detrement and Mischief we apprehend from it — but in case of a

Rupture between the Two Crowns it will be a very Convenient

Rendesvouz and Magazine for their Indians to jake Easy

Assaults on this County and New England: and where they

May at their Leizure Convey Provisions &c. over the Lake

and Surprize this City — Wherefore we humbly hope and desire

that your Ex:cy will be pleasd to Represent this Affair to the Court

of Great Britain, in order that this Approaching Evil may be

Prevented; for if the French do proceed to make those Settlements

our City and County is Apparently ruin’d — We hope that we shall

not be Left thus naked and open to the Fury of Malicious

Vigilant Enemys — We being Informd that the Govern.r of Canada

has Sent Severall French Indians a hunting towards Kaderachqua

who usd to hunt at the Carrying place on our Frontier and that

we Daily hear Such precarious Accounts of the Continuall

Incroachments of the French on our Indian Trade, and

Captain Blood haveing received a Pacquet wrote in french

by way of Kaderachque from an Indian w.ch he could not read

And he (to our great Surprize) Inclosed the Same in another

Cover to Captain Holland for your Ex:cy which at this junct=

=ure of Affairs we Conclude may be of so Pernicious Consequen

=ce to this Province. and as Your Ex.cy has been Pleasd to Intrust

us w.th the Affairs here has movd us (on the Inclosd Affidavit

of Robert Dunbarr that there was Such a Pacquet) to

Incroach on your Ex:cys goodness to know the Purport of the

Said Pacquet directed to Captain Blood w.ch we hope your

Ex.cy will be pleasd to Pardon Who are w.th great Esteem &c

[DRCHNY 5:910 adds “Which after perusal we find to be of another nature than we at first conjectured. We conclude that we are — with great esteem and respect

Your Excel.cys most obedient and most humble servants,”]


[0667] 331a [Not in Wraxall.]

The Affidavit of Robert Dunbarr

Robert Dunbarr of Full Age being Sworne on the holy

Evangelists of Almighty God Declares That about the 10:th

of this Instant Novenber there came an onondago Indian

from Kaderachque to Oswego who had a Pacquet w.ch he

Deliverd unto Captain Blood and told him it was for the

Commanding Officer at Oswego; which this Depon.t Says

Captain Blood afterwards told this Depon:t he had open’d,

but could not understand it because it was wrote in french

but this Depon.t Sayth he Saw said pacquet open w.th some

Ribbons to it: And to the best of this Deponents knowledge

Said Pacquet Consisted of about Two or three Sheets of

Paper. and the Blood Sayd he would Send it to his Ex:cy

our Governour — And further Say’th not


Rob.t Dunbarr             Jur cor me apud Albany Novemb.r

the 26:th 1730

Dirck Ten Broeck Just