Minute Book 3: 1723

Cornell title: Commission for Indian Affairs (Albany, N.Y.). Indian Affairs Pamphlets, Volume 1

Minutes of the Commission of Indian Affairs – Albany, New York, 1722-1732 – 1220

 

Library and Archives Canada title: Commissioners of Indian Affairs [meetings], Albany, New York, 1722-1748

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transcription by Ann Hunter Oct. 27, 2015 –

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[Cover: worn dark material, upside down view shows print of lion with sword, person holding hat on sword, words “ProPatria Super Fine Fine” surrounded by an ornate frame. Rightside up says “M[inu]tes of the Com[mrs of] [the] Indin Affairs Jnry. 7th 1722/3 [to] the 20th August 17[33?] The motto and picture resemble the “Pro Patria watermerk van van Gelder” at http://www.papiergeschiedenis.nl/geschiedenis_fotos_vangelder_beeldmerken.htm but are not identical.

 

 

 

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Att a meeting of the Commission.rs

of the Indian affairs in albany

the 7.th day of January 1722/23

 

Present

 

Henry Holland

Hend. Hansen

Joh.s Cuyler

Peter van Brugh          Esq.r    Com.srs

Evert Bancker

Ph. Livingston

John Collins

Johs Wendell

Johannis Bleecker

 

Lawrence Claese

Interpreter

 

The Deputies of the five Nations being returned

from Boston Relate as follows That they have

heard the Propositions and Treaties made between

the Government of Boston and the Eastern In

dians Interpreted unto them by Lawrence Claese

and [Josiah Kellach] whereby they are guided

to believe that the people of Boston have

just Reason to make War on the Said Ind.ns and

do not think that the English have been the

first Aggressors because they have hitherto kept

all the Treaties and Engagements made by yr

Ancestors in behalf of that Governm.t w.tt the

five Nations and are Surpris’d that those Ind.n

[that those Ind.ns – crossed out] Should be so Insolent as to take

up arms against the Brethren of N England

since it is but about two years ago that they

[Desired] by a Belt of Wampum to be Children

to the five nations and Submitted themselves

under their protection but having not as yet

spoke with the Said Ind.ns they cant make a

positive Judgment of the Controversie they having

heard Some of those Ind.ns are hunting near the

Lake they intend to Send Messengers on y.e [10.th]

Instant to Enquere if they [psist[ in y.t Resolution

which they have Declared in their paper that

was afix’d on their Church to continue y.e War

So long as the Sun and Moon Endures, if so, the

five Nations have Determined to Chastise

their

 

 

 

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their Children, in making War upon th[em?]

till they be utterly destroyed, they Intend [to]

give notice to all Straggling Ind.ns that [may]

be among the Eastern Ind.ns belonging to h[is]

Maje.s Govern.t to return to their Habitations

which if they refuse they well look upon

them as Enemies & treat ym as Such

That assoon as the Sd Message is pformed they

[will?] acquaint the Com.rs what Success they have

had with the Said Ind.ns

 

The Sd Deputies add further that they told

the Governour of Boston in the house of Re

presentatives before the Gen.ll Assembly that

he had Sent a present to Albany in order to

treat with the five Nations & desired to know

why he was not come to meet them when [ye]

other three Govern.rs Spoke w.t them this Sum

mer & desired to know what prevented it.

 

The Govern.r answered he had been hindred

to come and treat w.t them this Season but

designed to add to the present w.ch was at

Albany & intended to meet them early

next Spring. The Said Deputees Replyed yt

he could meet them at Albany which was y.e

place appointed by y.r Ancestors to treat

about publick affairs. The Govern. told ym

he was to resolve w.t his Council & assembly

where he should meet them & would send

them a Message Early in the Spring to ac=

quaint them w.t y.e time & place where hee

Intended to Speak with them

 

Lawrence Claese informs y.ee Com.rs yt Hend.k told

him at Boston y.t a Minester who talk’d with

him in the Eastern Language enquired of

him if it was not possible, he might be their

Teacher in y.e Mohogg’s Country to w.ch Hendk

reply’d it seems yt y.e Govern.t of N York & Bos=

ton cannot agree about y.e Intended meet=

ing w.th the five Nations, when they adjusted

 

[Side of page] and agreed on the time and place for their meeting he would be able to give him an

Answer [?] ws Signed Lawrens Claessen

 

 

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Att a meeting of the Com.rs of

the Indian affairs in albany

the 9th day of Jan.ry 1722/23

 

Prsent

Peter Schuyler

Henry holland

Hend. Hanson

Johs Cuyler

Peter van Brugh

Evert Bancker

Philip Livingston

John Collins

Johs. Wendell

Johs Bleecker

 

Resolved that the following Letter be write to his Ex.ye W.m Burnet Esq.r etc.

Albany the 9th January 1722/23

 

May it please your Excellency

 

We are honoured with your Excellencys favour

of the 20th December whereby we perceive that

your Exel.y thinks no news from our parts com

monly good News, we hope what we now intimate

by your Exc.ys Directions will bear y.e Same

Character

Inclosed is the Relation of y.e Deputies

of the five nations who are returned from New

England with Laurence Claese.

We observe your Excel.y has Consented y.e

Governm.t of Boston Should treat with y.e Ind.ns

of the five Nations and desire to know from

us when that may be done. and that if y.e Ind.ns

may be advised to Send what fighting men

they can Spare to go the the people of Boston

a fighting against the Eastern Ind.ns and begg

your Excel.y to give us Directions how when

and in what Manner that is to be done the

most convenient time to have Said Meeting

here we humbly think will be the first day

of May next when the Ind.ns come from their

hunting

With all

 

 

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With all due Submission we are of opin[ion]

(in regard to the Circumstances of this [?]

that advising our Indians to go a fig[hting]

against the Eastern Ind.ns or Engaging [them]

in that War may be of Dangerous Conseq[uence]

to the Inhabitants of this Province and

may be a Means to Involve this Governm[ent]

in a more desperate War with the East[ern]

and the Canada Ind.ns then it has been a[?]

the Eastw.d for it is very visible to us that

assoon as our Ind.ns are Joyned & Engaged in

that War the Governor of Canada will Send [“Send” is crossed out]

use his Endeavour to Send [“his” crossed out] the Ind.ns living

near him (who at his first application [re=]

=fused their assistance to those Ind.ns but after

our Ind.ns are Engaged by this Govern.t he will

if possible compel his Ind.ns to Joyn y.e Eastern

Ind.ns whish we have reason to believe he’ll

get affected and then we may naturally con

=jecture that our five Nations, and the Canada

Ind.ns will be in an actual War together, and

we by the treaties of peace not able publick=

=ly to assist the Sd. five Nations according to

our Engagements at the several Treaties

betwixt us. the most proper means to pre[vent]

this Inconveniency, we humbly propose wil[l]

be that our Ind.ns may be privately advised to

Send Some Deputies to the Canada Ind.ns to

[be] neuter and not engage themselves in this

War when our Gov.nrs have undertaken it, &

this can’t be done but at y.e particular Ex=

=pence of the Governmt.

Upon the whole matter we find that

the Governm.t of boston Endeavours as much

as possible to get our Ind.ns in their particu

=lar Interest having Entertained & Cloathed

them after an Extraordinary manner. so

can’t avoid being of opinion that our Interpre

=ter

 

 

 

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Interpreter accompanies their Messenger when

they Invite the Ind.ns to meet them, that nothing

be offered to the Ind.ns beyond what yo.re Exce.cy

and that Govern.t Shall agree on

We must begg your Excel.cy for the se

=curitie of this city and County to advise the

Governor of Boston to Send a Sufficient quan=

=tity of provisions for the Ind.ns when they come

down that they may not be a burden to the

Inhabitants, wishing your Excell.cy & Lady a

happy new year and take leave to Subscribe

our Selves

 

May it please your Excell.cy

 

Your Excellency’s most humble

and most obedient Servants

 

was Signed

 

Henry Holland

Hend. Hansen

Joh.s Cuyler

Pieter van Brugh

Evert Banker

Philip Livingston

John Collins

Johannis Wendell

Johan Bleecker

 

 

 

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Att ameeting of the Com.ers of

the Indian affairs in Albany

the 15.th day of January 1722/3

 

Present

 

Henry Holland

Hend. Hansen

Peter van Brugh

Johan.s Cuyler

Philip Livingston

John Collins

Joh.s Bleecker

The Commissioners write this day a letter to Capt. Wm. Helling —

 

Att a meeting of the Com.rs of the

Indian affairs in Albany the 17th

day of Jan.ry 1722/3

 

Present

 

Henry Holland

Hend. Hansen

Peter van Brugh

Ph. Livingston

John collins

Johs Bleecker

 

The Commissioners Received this day

a Letter from Capt Scot by an express dated at fort

Hunter the 16th ultimo wherein he Intimates that

Some french Indians two from Canastoque & two from

fort Hunter have been fighting towards virginia brought

a prisoner and a Skalp, that the Indian prisoner talks

good English — who Says to be Coll.r Spotswoods Servant

that the Indians have been with the s.d prisoner

on their Journey to Canada. and he Sent a messenger

to fitch them back and are Still at fort Hunter

 

Resolved that the following Letter be write

to Capt. Scot.

 

Albany ye 17th Jan.ry 1722/3

Capt. Scot

We have Received yours dated yesterday and do

Return you thanks for your Care concerning the prison.er [yt]

the Canada & two of the mohogg Indians have taken

 

 

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and brought from virginia who you Say talks good

English and is Coll.o Spotswoods Servant, he ought to

be Releasd from them in order thereto we write

now to Lawrence Claese to go to you with this oppertunity

to assist you in adviceing the Canada and our Indians

who took him to come forthwith hither to us with

two or three Sachims of the mohoggs and the Prison.er

they have with them that we may Inquire

further in this affair your good offices on this and

the like occassion will be acknowledged by.

 

P.S.

that Indian you make mention

of will be present when the rest come

We have Satisfyed Boyen & so we will

you for your Sled & horses. & likwise

Printhop when he comes to Town.

 

Albany 17th Jan.ry 1722/3

Lourence Claese

We are Informed by a letter from Capt. Scot dated

yesterday that some Canada [Indians- crossed out] and two

Mohogg Indians have taken an Indian prisoner

and brought him and a Skalp at fort Hunter the

Prisoner is found to be a Servant of Coll.o Spotswood

he talks good English, in order to Release him

out of their hands, we comand you forthwith to

go up to fort Hunter and desire the Indians who

have taken this prisoner fortwith to come hither to

us and bring him along. Let two or three of the

Sachims come down with you, and advice with Capt

Scot about this affair that this bussiness may be

Effected, we send you Seaven hands of wampum

to be made [use?] of on this occassion [a messenger is – crossed out]

 

 

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Resolved that a messenger be Sent to Saraghtoque to

fitch one of the Indians who has been fighting

towards virginia to come hither

 

Att a meeting of the Commission.ers

of the Indian affairs in albany

the 10th day of January 1722/3

 

Present

 

Henry Holland

Hend. Hanson

Peter van Brugh

John Collins

Joh.s Bleecker

 

This day came the Canada Indian from

Saraghtoque to whom the Com.ers Sent a messenger

to come to Town to [be present] when the Rest of his

Company and the Indian Prisoner they have taken

[of?] and brought from virginia who is at fort

Hunter come down in order that ye prisoner may

be Released & taken from them

 

The Commissioners told y.e Canada Indian

they would Speak to him concerning the prisoner he

and his Company have taken at virginia when

they come to Town which they expect will be

to morrow morning —

 

 

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Att a meeting of the Com.rs of ye

Indian affairs in Albany yee 19.th

day of January 1722/3

 

Present

 

Pr. Schuyler

Henry Holland

Hend. Hanson

Johs. Cuyler

P van Brugh

Evert Bancker

John Collins

Ph. Livingston

Joh. Bleecker

 

In pursuance of a letter y.e Com.rs write on y.e 17th

Instant to Lawrence Claese the Interpreter to go to

ffort Hunter and bring down y.e Indians who have

been fighting to virginia, with the Indian prison.r —

they have taken with whom he came to Town

and appeared [this day – crossed out] before the Com.rs this day who

told the said Indians, that they are Surprised to See

that they have been So Insolent as to go fighting

and take prisoners from the frind Indians of virginia

Since a treaty of peace has been so Lately

Concluded between the gov.er of virginia & y.e 5 nations

and So Solemnly Confirmed by the five nations but

this Last Summer and that the Same Should be

kept inviolable on their Side.

The Canada Indians Replyd that they were

gone out a fighting against the virginia Indians

before the governour of virginia was here to make

this treaty of peace that is [blotch?] Sayd to be made.

The Commissioners Repeated to the s.d Indians

the treaty and Engagement the five nations made

with the Governour of virginia in Regard to the peace

and frindship they have promised to keep for themselves

and sundry other nations and Included the Indians

of your Castle of Cacknawage as a bransh of themselves

 

 

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And we desire you by this belt of wampum to deliver

this Prisoner you have taken unto us that he may be

Sent home to his own Country for you may be assured

it will be Ill taken by our governour that you so insolent

to Committ hostillities in time of peace on our frinds

The said Cachnawage Indians Refusd to deliver the

prisoner they have taken but Said let me bring him

to our Castle then our Sachims at your desire will

deliver him

That after all the Endeavors & arguments

the Com.ers used to have the said prisoner out of the hands

of the Indians in order to Send him home could not

prevail

Resolved to Send a belt of wampum by y.e s.d

Indians to their Sachims of Cachnawage to desire them

thereby to Send the said prisoner back being he is

taken from a nation of Indians who are in frindship

with the Governmt of virginia and the five nations

this Last Summer who have Engagd for the Cachnawage

Indians.

That your Sachims Send us word whether

they do Stand to what the five Nations have Engagd

for them and keep their young men from fighting ag.st

y.e Indians Liveing in virginia or any other Indians

Liveing in frindship with y.e English which thee

Indians promised to Communicate to their Sachims —

on Examination of y.e prisoner Says to belong

to a nation of Indians called Saponies Liveing near

Christiana and was taken about 24 miles from that

place where he was hunting with four other Indians

two of them where taken at the Same time (who made

their escape) and one was killd

 

 

Notes: See http://www.sappony.org/index.htm ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sappony ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Christanna

 

 

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albany y.e 14 february 172/3

May it please your Ex.ly

 

We have Received your Ex.ys Letter of ye 31st ultimo

Inclosed we Send our minutes Since our Last whereby

your Ex.ly will perceive that Some Canada Indians

brought here on the 19.th past an Indian Prisoner from

virginia we used our uttmost Endeavor to Redeem

him after all our trouble found that the prisoner was

more willing to go to Canada then to Return home

tho we have good reason to beleeve that the Sachims

will on the belt we Sent Send him back. we Should

have Compeld the Indians to Surrender the prisoner

but in consideration that your Es.ly was Inclind

to have the five nations to Joyn in the Eastren war

against y.e Indians we would not disoblidge them

for that would naturally make them Imbrace the

governour of Canadas proposall to war ag.st New

England. after the Indians had the prisoner out of Town

they gave him his Liberty and went with them

our Indians are hearty enough in Suppressing

the Eastren war tho’ it is out of their power to assist

  1. England the next Summer. Since we are Informd that

most of their warriors are gone out fighting against

Indians not included in the Last Treaty with

Submission we [think – crossed out] are of opinion that it will be

Impracticable to Engage our Indians to war ag.st y.e

Canada Indians being a part of themselves are

gone and Removed thither by y.e Inducements of

the french priests and y.e misfurtunes of the two Late

unhappy Expeditions

we are thankfull to your Ex.ly for the good

news which makes us Rejoyce. we have acquainted

the Corporation of their neglect —

 

 

 

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Att a meeting of the Com.rs of

the Indian affairs in albany

the 23th day of March 1722/3

 

Present

Henry Holland

Hend. Hansen

Joh.s Cuyler

John Collins

Philip Livingston

 

A letter from the Leiet. Govern.r of the Province

of the Massatuchsetts Bay dated the 15.th Instant with

his Resolve in Councill of ye 12.th d.o was Communicated

to this meeting by [m.e] Ph. Livingston Sec.r for the Indian

affairs in Relation to their Intended meeting the

five nations here on the 20.th day of may next.

Resolved that as soon as the Com.ers Receive direction

from his Es.ly our govem.t to Send for y.e five nations by

our Interpreters

 

Att a meeting of y.e Com.es of yee

Indian affairs y.e 24.th day of march

1722/3

 

[present]

Henry Holland

Hend. Hansen

Joh.s Cuyler

John Collins

Ph Livingston

Johannis [wendell]

 

The Com.es Received a Letter from his Es.ly

our governour of ye [21.th] Instant wherein his Es.ly

advices them that he has Consented the goverment

of Boston to meet the five nations here on y.e

20.th of may next and that on their assurance

to defray the Charge of that Treaty to Send

the Interpreter to desire the Sachims of

the five Nations to meet the Boston Gentle

=men here on the prefixed time

Resolved that a Letter be writ & Sent

to the Interpreter forthwith to come hither

to receive his Instructions for that purpose

 

 

 

In the entry for March 23, this page appears to ID Philip Livingston’s handwriting by saying “me” but the word is written with a superscript, so not 100% clear.

 

 

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Att a meeting of the Com.es of the

Ind.ne affairs in albany the 26

day of March 1723

 

Present

Henry Holland

Hend.k Hanson

Joh.es Cuyler

Evert Banker

John Collins

Ph. Livingston

Joh.s Wendel

 

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Att a meeting of the Com.es of the Indian

affairs in albany y.e [2.th] day of April 1723

 

[3] Present

Henry Holland

Hend.ke Hansen

Joh.s Cuyler

Ph. Livingston

 

By the Commissioners of the

Ind.n affairs at albany

 

Instructions for Lourence Claese Interpreter

 

Whereas we have received advice from his

Excellency William Burnet Esq.r Cap.t Gen.tl

and Governour in Chief of the Province of

New York [Etc.] by a Letter dated the 21.st of March

last he has agreed to the Boston Deputies

Treating with the five nations and upon

that Governments Sending us assurance

that

 

 

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That they will defray the Expence of the

Message to the Indians, and their Charges

while here during the said Treaty directed

[to – crossed out] us to Send a Messenger to Summon them

(that Government having given us Sufficient

assurance to defray the Charge of y.e Treaty [Etc.])

Wee do therefore hereby Require & Comand

you to go up to the Several Castles or Setle

=ments of the five Nations and tell the Sa=

=chims that his Excellency our Governour

has Consented to the Treaty which has

been sometime on foot between the Go

vernment of Boston and them which is

the Sole Reason of Sending for them now

and that they are desired by a String of

Wampiom. You are to be here precisely on

the twenty day of May next, to meet the

Boston Commissioners to deliver each Na

tion here on that day You are also to ac=

=company the Ind.ns hither in their March

or the greater Number of them to [take]

care that the number of them do not ex=

=ceed Seventy persons including Men Wo

=men and Children and hereof you are

not to fail given under our hands in

Albany the 2.d day of April in the ninth

year of his Maje.s Reigne A.o D.o 1723

 

was Signd

Henry Holland

Hend.k Hansen

Joh.s Cuyler

Ph Livingston

 

 

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Att a meeting of the Com.rs of the

Ind.n affairs in albany the 6.th day

of april 1723

 

Present

Henry Holland

Joh.s Cuyler

Pet v. Brugh

Ph. Livingston

 

D’Canassore Sachim of the Onnondages came

before the Com.rs who said: the Last fall our Govern[.t]

together with the Gov.rs of Virginia were and made

a treaty with the five Nations that the Should

not go to War ag.te the friend Ind.ns of Virginia

which they will punctually observe and the

bones of their Slain lye quiet. they have now

an Expedition in hand but will bend their Course

another way ag.t Ind.ns who are not Included

in the s.d Treaty gave a String of Wampum —

 

 

May it please your Exce.ly Albany 23.d April 1723

 

Your Excel.les Letters of 21.th and March came

to our hands, and are heartily concerned any

Conduct of ours Should disoblige your

Excellency when our Intentions and

Endeavors were design’d to have the

Contrary Effect

The Ind.n Prisoner the ffrench Indian[s]

took at Virginia near Christiana, we

thought it our Duty to Release and

Endeavour’d it as far as presents & Civil

Treatment would do Declining fforce as

believing it would Create so great dis=

=turbances amongst the Ind.ns as might be

attended w.t very ill Consequences

 

We are pfectly well assured your

Excellency

 

 

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Excellency would not oblige y.e five Nations in

any thing unreasonable. but any act of your Exce.ns

weighs much more w.t them then any thing we can

Do the Ind.ns who live at Canada at least those of

Cachnawage are part of the five Nations and what Ever

Rough Treatment they receive will be resented by

the five Nations perhaps not in so publick a Manner

as to obliege them to leave their bread & Cloathing

which we are Satisfied they receive at albany

but underhand to the great detriment of many of

the Subjects living in the remotest part of the

Government

 

We [did – crossed out] Esteem him as an English Prisoner

and as we before informed your Excel.y used our Endeavors

to Release him and after we were tyred by two days

arguments w.t the Ind.ns found he was more Enclind to go

to Canada then to return to his own Country —

We have Sent positive [Orders] by two Sachims to Cachna=

wage to demand him but have yet no direct answer

We are informed they have made a Sachim of him

according to Custom and are doubtful whether

he’ll come Back

 

 

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Att a meeting of the Commis=

=sioners of the Indian affairs

In Albany the 8.th day of May

1723

 

Present

Lewis Morris Jun.r Esq.r

one of his Maj.es Council

 

Henry Holland

Peter v Brugh

Evt. Banker                 Esq.rs Com’rs

Ph Livingston

Joh.s Bleecker

 

Twenty Indians of the far Nations being

arrivd at this City to trade with the Inhabitants

of this place who in their coming down from

the Ind.n houses built for them on the Hill

played with a Calumet pipe of Peace and

Sung after their Custom which being done

appeared before the Com.rs and made the following

Speech

Father Corlaer

We are come to this place to

visit you our ffather meaning his Excellency

our Govern.r and hope we may be Civily and

kindly [Entertained – crossed out] Treated

 

The French have for these

four years past prohibited the Selling of

Rum unto us; on which our Sachims told

them that they had Concluded to go and buy

Rum of their ffather Corlaer meaning

the Inhabitants of this Province, gave

a few Skins

We your Children are Sent

by the Sachims of our several Castles in

hopes to meet with a kind Reception from

our father with a pure and Clean

heart

 

 

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Heart we have found the path from our

Castles to this place open and clean free

from all Weeds and hope it may be so

in our Return home and that we may

have cheap penny worths to Show and

Encourage those Indians who may

meet us in our way home – gave a few

Skins

They presented the Commissioner[s]

with a Calumet Pipe to be kept by

them and Shown when any of their

Nations come here and desire they

may have pure Rum not mixt with

Water that and Cheap goods will En

=courage many of their Nations to

come and trade here

 

Answer to the Sd Indians

 

Children

We are glad that you are

come to visit your ffather you do well

not to hearken to the bad Council

of the ffrench you have already had

Sufficient proof of our ffriendShip

and the Civil and kind Treatment

towards you and other upper Nations

who have been here. we Suppose

you can Easily distinguish the

Vast

 

 

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Vast difference in the price

of goods you buy here and those

you have from the ffrench which

are above one half dearer then

we Sell them that and the kind

Reception we give you, we hope may

be Sufficient Motives for all your upper

Nations to come and Carry on their

trade to this place and we promise

to take all proper measures that you

may have goods Cheap and pure Rum

As can be afforded to our own people

for your Father our Govern.r has ordered

houses to be built for your Conveniency

and accomodation to Lodge in [that] you

may goe with your Skins where Ever you

please and buy where you can get the Cheap=

=est penny worths and not be compelled to

trade with those who used to get you in

their houses, the path shall always be

open for you & kept clean and free from

all weeds that and the cheap goods you

can buy here we think will be the grea=

test Inducements we can give for all your

people to bring [all – crossed out] their Peltry hither

gave them a present of Strowds Shirts

Rum & Provisions to the value of

ten pounds ten Shillings

 

 

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Att a meeting of the Com.r

of the Indian affairs

in Albany the 21.st day

of May 1723

 

Present

Henry Holland

Peter v Brugh

Ph Livingston

  1. Bleecker

 

Some far Indians being come to

this City Say that they are come to

visit their father and are very desirous

to have Rum Cheap[er] as also other

goods gave a few be.vr Skins

 

The Comissioners told them that

they are glad that they are come to

See how Cheap goods are here by what

the ffrench Sell. their father our

Governour has orderd houses to be

built on this Hill on purpose for

you to lodge in that you may goe

with your Skins where you please

 

22 3/4th Bacon at 6 S L 11-9

[9] Skeple pease 3–

1 D.o Indian Corn 1-6

_____

L — 16-3

 

4 Kegs Rum 4 Ga.ll Each – L 2-8 —-

3 Shirts 6 —-

 

 

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[0029] 15

 

Att a meeting of the Com.es of

the Indian affairs in albany the

23.th day 1723 [sic]

 

Present

Peter Schuyler

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh

Evert Banker

Philip Livingston

Johannis Bleecker

 

 

O [large circle drawn to left of text]

 

William Dummer Esq.r Lieutenant Gover

nour and Commander in Chief of his Majesties

Province of the Massashusets Bay in New Eng=

land To William Tailer, Elisha Cooke, Spencer

Phips, and John Stoddard Esq.rs Greeting —-

 

Whereas the Great and General Court of this

his Majesties Province did at their Session

held at Boston the fifteenth [day – crossed out] of Novem

ber 1722 Elect and nominate you (or any three

of you) to represent this Government in a

Treaty and Negotiation with the five Nati=

=ons of Indians to be had at Albany in the

Month of May next; I have accordingly au=

=thorized, and Impowred, and do by these pre=

=sents authorize and Impower You the Said

William Tailer, Elisha Cooke, Spencer Phips

and John Stoddard (or any three of you) to

be Commissioners on the part of this

Government

 

 

[0030] 15a

 

Government to treat with the five Nations

or the Sachims or principal Men of the Said

Nations at Albany as aforesaid In Order to

the Renewing [Rutifying?] and Confirming

the Ancient Friendship and Correspondence

hitherto kept Inviolate between this His

Majesties Government, and the Sd five Nations

and to Engage them to Join with us in making

War with the Eastern Indians, and you are to

observe and follow in the S.d Treaty the In=

=structions herewith given you Given under

my hand and the Common Seal of the Said

Province of the Massachusets Bay; at Boston

the Twenty fifth day of March 1723 In the

ninth year of his Majesties Reign —

 

by the Lieut. Govern.r was Sign’d

Command Wm Dummer

was Signed

J Willard Secry

 

 

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Att a meeting of the Com.es of the

Indian affairs in albany y.e

27.th day of may 1723

 

Present

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh

Evert Bancker

Ph: Livingston

Joh.s Wendell

Joh. Bleecker

 

Lowrence Claese the Interpreter being Returnd this

day from the Severall Castles of the five Nations

Relates to this meeting that pursuant to his Instructions

by order of his Ex.ly Wm. Burnet Esq.r & from the Com.es

dated the 2.d of april last he has Invited the Sachims

of ye s.d nations to come hither to meet the Gentlemen

Impowerd by the Govermt of Boston to meet them

at albany the 20.th of this Instant about Some publick

affairs

That the mohoggs onneydes Cayouges (and

the Tusquarores being Setled near oneyde & Reputed

now as a nation) accepted the message and Said that they

would be here at the appointed time, that the onnon=

=dages and Sinnekes declind to be present at s.d meeting

and said they were yet in mourning for three of their

Sachims who dyd Last fall whose deaths are as yet not

Condold to take away that ptence Lourence borrowd three

blankets of Shrowds and a Shirt, and Condoled their

deaths, (after their manner) which being prformd

acquainted the Sachims of ye Sinnekes the Second time

that he was Sent by his Ex.y Gov.e Burnet Esq.e Etc.

to desire them in his name to Come to albany

to meet the Gentlemen from Boston on ye 20th

Instant. on which they and the Sachims of onnondage

(Some of them being then pre[s]ent) Replyd that they had

 

 

[0032] 16a

 

Concluded not to be present at said meeting [illeg. – crossed out]

unless it [is to – crossed out] be [illeg] Referred to ye next Spring on which they gave

Seaven hands of wampum. and that in the mean

time they where to have a generall meeting at

onnondage to Consult [illeg. -crossed out] about Some affairs

Relating the five Nations

 

Whereon Lourence gott some of ye best & truest

Indians to know from them the Reason why the

Sinnekes & onnondages would not come to be present

at S.d meeting told him that Jeun caur the french

Interpreter had made [abreath] among ye five Nations

and Enjoynd the sachims of s.d two Castles not to go to

albany on any message to be Sent y.m to meet y.e

Com.rs from Boston till he Should Return from Canada

which would be when the Straw berries where Ripe

and have promisd him to Stay at home as had also

the fighting men

After Lourence Saw that his Endeavors

[prov’d – crossed out] in perswading the Sachims of the Sinnekes and

onnondages to Come hither to be [pr]sent at s.d meeting

provd uneffectuall. Returnd to Cayouge [to See – crossed out]

[whether – crossed out] and dispatchd one of the sachims of that

Castle to the Sinnekes Country to See whether he could

prevail on them who being come at y.t Castle

desired them to go to albany with them on ye message

Sent to all ye nations by this Goverm.t who Could gett

no direct answer from them on which y.e Cayouge

Sachims gott three Sachims who We know to be true

to the English and [?] y.m to tell him Sincerly what

[illeg. – crossed out] ye Reason was the onnondages & their Sachims —

Refurd to be p.nt at s.d meeting Told him as they

had done above to Lourence that they had promist

Jeun Coeur [that – crossed out] not to go

 

 

[0033] 17

 

That Jeun Coeur had also desired from the Sachims

of the Sinnekes to build a Fort at onjagera which

they have declind then he obtaind their Consent

to build a house near Thierondequat (at the passage

of ye far Indians to albany) and is thought he is gone

to Montreal

for men & to build that house.

 

That at [ye] Return of Lourence from Cayouge at

onnondage with ye assistence of ye Sachims of Cayouge

prevails on the Sachims of that Castle to come

down and Some of them are now in Town as

also ye Sachims of Cayouge onneyde Tusquorora

& mohoggs. after the above Relation was given

the Com.es Bing [are – crossed out] Informd that Seaven Sachims of ye

Sinnekes are arrived. the Interpreter being Sent

out to See if it [be – crossed out] was so when Returnd Said he had

Spoke with them. who Told him they [expicted] by ye [additional words crossed out]

rest of y.t nation to be psent & treat at [ye sd] meeting to [?] with ye other

[of – crossed out] nations / with ye gentlemen from Boston

 

 

 

 

[0034] 17a                   Printed in Livingston Indian Records p. 236

 

Propositions made by William

Tayler Spenser Phips & John Stodder

Esq.rs Commissioners appointed by bis

Maj.e’s Governmt. of the Massachusetts

bay. to the Sachims of the five

nations (to witt) the Mohoggs oneydes

onnondages Cayouges and Sinnekes

as also to those of Tusquaorora

in Albany the 28th day of may 1723

 

Present

 

William Tayler

Spenser Phips            Esq.s members of his

maj.es Council of ye

Province of massechusetts

Bay

 

John Stodder Esq        member of ye house

of Representatives of

Do Province

 

Peter Schuyler

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh          Esq.s Com.es

Evert Bancker

Ph Livingston

Johs. Wendell

Joh. Bleecker

 

Interpreted by Lowrence Claese

after it was Translated into

Dutch by Philip Livingston

 

The Sachims being convind Said first

 

Brethren

 

yehahowanne and Kinne the first in the Indian

tongue is A Broad way and the last Signifies

Pingeon which they take from Coll.e Pingeon who

has formerly treated with them in behalf of the Govermt

of [Boston – crossed out] the Massachusets Bay.

You have [desired – crossed out] Invited us to come here we the

Sachims of the five Nations & of the Tusquaroras

being Eighty in number and Impowerd by the [sd. Servt]

nations to treat with you are arrived here and now

Ready to hear what you have to propose. but we

are first to beg a favoeur of you. and acquaint you that as

it has [been – crossed out] from ancient time been the Comon practice

of all Govern.ts to gett our guns hatchetts & ketles mended

[which – crossed out] we desire [may – crossed out] you may also order to be done now

The Gentlemen [Replyed – crossed out] answered that as they are Sent by

the [sd] Govermt [of Boston – partly crossed out] to treat with them they

desire to Speak first and shall take Notice of what they

Said afterwards

 

 

[0035] 18

 

Brethren

 

We are well Pleased that after our and your Long [? – crossed out]

Travail we are mett together. and have the Satisfaction

of Seeing one another and Congratulating each

other on our safe arrival

 

Friends and Brethren

The Govrernment of the Massechu=

=sets Bay recalling to mind that firm Friendship

that hath / long Since been Contracted often

renewed and Inviolably maintaind between

them and your Tribes and considering that

by reasons of your great Distance from them

they have not frequent opportunity of Con=

=versing with you and thereby increasing

mutual Respect and Friendship therefore

they thought proper to send three Gentlem.n

about a year and half Since, to make you a

visit, and to renew that amity that hath

continued almost time out of mind, and to

negotiate some other affairs with you

but you being then lately returned from

hence to your own Country they had not

the Opportunity to speak with you

Since which Several of your

Chiefs (being delegates for their respective

tribes) have taken a Journey to Boston

which was very acceptable and pleasing to

that Government, and gave them an Opportu=

=nity of expressing their Respect for you

and we doubt not but they have been so

Just as to acquaint you with the Kind

Reception and friendly Entertainment they

met withal

The Governm.t being Sensible

of the disappointment of their former Com.rs

Resolved upon Sending us hither/partly/on

the Same Errand we are accordingly come

by

 

 

[0036] 18a

 

By order and in the name of yt Governt.

to brighten the Chain of ffriendship/into

which they have put their hands from wch

they neither can nor desire to withdraw

them/ and to give you the utmost assurance

of the Respect and Friendship and that

they will endeavour by all proper methods

to Cultivate a good understanding between

them and your tribes and Endeavor to

Continue the Same to future Generations

And as a Testimony of their Regard to you

and Evidence of their Sincerity, they have

Sent you this present which we in their

name deliver to you

When you have Considered of

what we have said, and Returned your an=

swer we Shall have Something furder to

offer to you

[different hand or pen?]

That the psent just now deliverd you is given

you by the Governmt of the [? – crossed out] Massachusets bay

and is as a token of their frindship and Renewing

the ancient Covenant Chain which has always been

kept Inviolable on their side

This being the Brith day of our Soveraign Lord

King George we have orderd a Barrel of beer for you

to drink his health

There are also fifty keggs with Rum fild

for you which you can see and are to be [brought – crossed out] carried up

above Schinechtady where you are to Receive them

which you may Carry to your own Castles to drink

with the Rest of your Sachims

 

 

[0037] 19 [printed in DRCHNY 5:693 et seq.]

 

Att a meeting of the Com.es of the

Indian affairs in Albany ye 29.th day

of may 1723

 

Present

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh

Evert Bancker

Ph. Livingston

Johan.s Bleecker

 

Eighty men of the far Indians (besides Squas & Children)

being arrived at this City who appeard before this meeting

 

Interpreted by

a Sinneke Indian

who lives among

them and renderd

into Dutch by

Low: Claese

 

It was askd them how many nations they belong to,

where they live and on what Bussiness they are Come

 

They Say by their Speaker Called Sakema

 

Brethren

We are arrived here this day and therefore desird the

Chiefs of this place might meet [that – crossed out] to acqt. them

of our arrivall. here have been Severall Nations

who have given themselves out for the Nation of —

Denighcariages (but they were not) we are of that nation

and what they have said is not true, and we are

those who Live most Remote from [hence – crossed out] you

They being askd where abouts they live and

how the french Call there Setlements they Say

(by what [can – crossed out] could be understood) it is Called Monsiemakerac

 

Brothers Corlaer, Quieder, and the five Nations

When one Brother comes to visit another it is

the Comon practice among us to Smoak a pipe in peace

together and reveile [their – crossed out] our Secrets. we compare

Deceitfull heart by a dark Sky but we hope that

we Shall with a Clean & pure heart in a fair Sun Shining

day discover to one another what we know and —

therefore desire y.t according to our Custom we may

take each a whif out of a Calumet Pipe in toaken

of peace & frindships, which being done said

 

 

[0038] 19a

 

We thank the Brethren for smoaking out of their

Calumet of peace and is a Sufficient Proof to us

of your frindships

We thought to have found the Brethren, of ye

Mohogs at home to pay [y.e] a visit and Show them

our Respect. but finding none at home we shall

tell them what we have to offer

 

Brethren Corlaer and Mohogs

We have now done so that you may consider

on what we have s.d to give us an answer we are

now here out of Six Castles called in our

Several Speeches Neghkareage / being two

Castles so named / Ronawadainie, Onnigh=

=siesanairoene, Kajienatroene & Tienonoat=

=deaga and what we have further to

offer we shall then desire the Gentle

=men to meet together to hear us.

The Com.rs told the sd. Nations that

they would meet to morrow morning

at Seven a Clock and desires that

they may appoint two out of Each

of their Nations to receive and answer

if they have nothing further to offer

on what has been Said, and that a sa

=chim Shall be pitchd upon out of

each of the five Nations to be psent

to hear what shall be Transacted.

 

 

 

 

[0039] 20

 

Answer made by the

Sachims of the Six Nations

Viz / the Mohoggs Oneydes

Onnondages Cayouges Sin

nekes & Tusquaroras to

W.m Tailer Spencer Phips

& John Stoddard Esq.rs Com.rs

from the Province of the

Massachusetts Bay in

New England at albany the 30th day

of May 1723

 

Present

 

William Tailer Esq.rs of his

Spencer Phips Maj.es Council

of ye Massa

chusets Bay

John Stoddard Esq. on of the

Representatives

of sd. Province

 

Peter Schuyler

Henry Holland

Peter v Brugh              Esq.rs Com.rs

Evert Bancker

Ph. Livingston

Joh.s Wendell

 

Interpreted by Lourence Claese

into Dutch & rendred into Eng-=

lish by Philip Livingston

 

The Com.rs from the Province

of the Massachusetts Bay said to the

Six nations they were now mett and

ready to receive their answer

after some Consultation they proceeded

in the following manner and said by their Speaker Thannintsorowea

 

Brethren Yekahawanne & Kinsie

You told us that you were

Rejoiced that you mett us here in

albany at the place where Quider

lives and where you appointed to treat

with the five Nations We are very

glad that you [? – crossed out] three Gentlemen

are arrived here in good health

and

 

 

[0040] 20a

 

And it is very acceptable to us to

see [them – crossed out] you here. the Contents of your

Proposition we have rightly un=

=derstood but shall not distinctly

repeat the Same now only the

principal heads thereof

 

Brethren

You told us also two days

ago that it is about a year and

a half Since that Com.rs were Sent hither

to treat w.t us here at Albany you

told us also that you were appointed

by the Govern.t of the Massachusets

Bay and that you [could] Speak in their

name & Rehears’d what our ancestors

have Concluded and Transacted time

out of mind, how Strongly they have

been Entered in the Covenant and

that it has been kept Inviolable

we have thought by our Selves what

the reason was our Brethren did

not come Sooner to Renew that

Covenant on your Message we are

here as you See delegates from all

the rest of the Sachims & of our Nations, who are

at home

 

 

[0041] 21

 

Brethren

You told us also that Some of

the Delegates of the five nations came

to visit you in your Govern.t We acknow

=ledge that they [came – crossed out] went by our order

and on Request of our Brother Cor

=laer his Excel.cy Gov.r Burnet you

said also that you rejoiced to See

them in yo.re Govern.t that you have

Shown them all the honour & Respect

you could, and that you doubted not

but they had done you the Justice

to acq.t the five Nations of the kind

[Enter – crossed out] treatment they met withal

which we acknowledge they have

done to our great Satisfaction —

therefore we in our own & in the

name of all the Nations return

you thanks for the kind treatment

and Reception given to our said

Delegates

 

Brothers

You have also noticed yt. Since

the Disappointment of the former

Com.rs at one year and half agoe you

have Intended to Speak wt. us to put

one

 

 

[0042] p. 21a

 

to put one another in Remembrance of

those things which have been transacted

by our [? – crossed out] ancestors wherefore we return

you thanks that you [? – crossed out] persisted in that design

ever Since

 

Brethren

You moved also Concerning the

antient Covenant made between our ances=

tors time out of mind that yt. Coven.t Chain

wherein they entered themselves & putt

In their hands you neither would nor

desired to withdraw your hands that

on the best and most proper methods

you would keep that Covenant Inviolable if

any Rust might be on the Same [it – crossed out] you did Clear

and make it bright and Shining

Wherefore we do return the Brethren

our most hearty thanks & Rejoice

to hear it. We do now in like man=

=ner in name of the Six Nations Re

new & Strengthen ye Coven.t Chain &

hope that our Childrens Children may

live in Such Amity and agree so friend=

=ly as we do

 

Brethren

We desire you not to hearken to

any false Stories for in the Comon

Course of the World w.n Brethren live

peaceably Envious people will endeavor breed

Discord –

 

 

[0043] 22

 

Brethren yehahowane

We Just now told you in the

beginning we would only rehearse the

principal points of your Propositions

therefore hope you will excuse us

if we had had any objection against ym we would

have [made – crossed out] answerd y’m but finding none Return you

thanks for your friendly & kind Ex

=pressions You told us also in ye Conclu=

=sion of your Proposition yt after we

had given you our answer you had Some

thing further to [propose – crossed out] offer unto us

We have now done for ye present what we have to Say

and hope you will excuse us for the

Small present we [can – crossed out] give. we wish

it was greater but since we are only poor

we desire you to accept it —

 

The Gentle.n replyed

That what answer you have

given is very acceptable to us & doubt

not but it will be so to the Govern.t

as for the Smalness of the present

is what we doe not regard but your

Sincerity in what you have Sd and yt.

will be most Acceptable to our Gover.t

 

That in the afternoon or to morrow

we will make you our further Proposi=

tions —

 

 

[0044] 22a

 

[? Treatie ? ] Propositions made by

William Tailer, Spencer Phips &

John Stoddard Esqr.s Com.rs Appoin=

ted by his Maj.es Govern.t of the

Massachusetts Bay to the Sa=

chims of the five Nations / to witt /

The Mohoggs, Oneydes, Onnondages

Cayouges & Sinnekes as also to

those of Tusquarora in Albany

the 30th day of May 1723

 

Present

 

William Tailer Esq.rs Members

Spencer Phips of his Maj.es Council

of the Province

of ye Massachusets

Bay

 

John Stoddard Esq.r member of the

house of Repre=

sentatives of s.d

Province

 

Peter Schuyler

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh          Esq.rs Com.rs

Evert Bancker

Ph. Livingston

Joh.s Wendell

Joh.s Bleecker

 

Interpreted by Laurence Claese

after it was Translated into Dutch

by Philip Livingston

 

 

Brethren

We have according to our Directions bright=

ened the Covenant Chain and Shall proceed

agreeably to our Orders to Enform you that

there are a people who live in the Eastern

Parts, called Abnequois, who have often Subjected

themselves to the Crown of great Britain

and in Solem Manner bound themselves [ too] behave themselves peace=

=ably towards his Maj.es good Subjects so long as

the Sun shall Endure; and to Confirm their

Engagements / Instruments have been drawn,

and distinctly read to them by Sworn Inter=

preters, and throughly understood by them,

to which they have Signed, and affixed their

Respective Marks, which writings have been

seen by your Delegates when in our Country,

and we doubt not but they have represented

the Same to you, therefore we need not be more

particular in informing you in that matter

yet

 

 

[0045] 23

 

Yet nothwithstanding those peo

=ple have / for divers years past / behaved them

=selves Insolently toward the English Inha

=biting those parts, by killing their Cattle,

and by threatning their persons, upon which

(although it was a manifest breach of Co=

=venant, and resented by the Govern.t / we took

no other measures with them, then to Send

Com.rs to remind them of their renewed pro

=mises, and to tell them of their pfideousness

in Such Acts of Violence Comitted without

any Provocation whatsoever they readily

acknowledged their Breach of Covenant,

and Seemed to bewail their miscarriagges,

yet did continue to repeat their Insolencies

 

And Sometime in the last

Spring, some of them coming on Board some

of our fishing Vessels in peaceable manner,

after they were on board took the men and

bound them, others by land, burnt divers hou

=ses seized upon Several Men, who they kept

as prisoners, under ptence of redeeming some

of their hostages, which they had given as

Security for payment of Skins they had pro=

=mised as Satisfaction for Damages they

had done to the English, and as Sureties

for their good & peaceable behaviour; af=

terwards they proceeded to attacque an English

Town, fired at a Garrison, wounded a young

Man, who afterward died of his wound. the

Govern.t / who had long suffered Multiplied

abuses from the Eastern Ind.ns, and had not

till now revenged their Wrongs / considering

these outrages, and Murther, thought them=

selves bound and accordingly did proclaim

them Rebels to King George, & Enemies

to

 

 

[0046] 23a

 

to the Crown of great Britain.

Some of your Delegates when

in the Eastern parts were Eye Witnesses –

of the Desolations made in that Country, &

were made Sensible of the perfidiousness

of that people, which they resented / as they

expressed it / even to vomiting.

Your Delegates when at Boston

assured that Govern.t that they would En=

=deavour to prevail with the five Nations,

to prevent the Merrimack, and Meserskeek

Ind.ns Confederating or Acting with the Eas-

=tern Ind.ns against us, and we conclude they

will let us know whither that matter

has taken Effect.

They likewise gave the Govern.t,

good reason to Expect that ye five Nations –

would Join with them in Carrying on the

War against the Eastern Ind.ns.

We being necessarily engaged

in a War against the Eastern Ind.ns who would

not / by any acts of kindness shewn them, by

promises made by them, or any Rules either

of Justice or Gratitude / be obliged to live

in peace with us; the Govern.t / upon their

considering that they and you had but one

hatchett / thought fit to send us hither to

tender the Hatchett to you / which they

could not for want of Opportunity propose

to you before hand / of your ready & chear=

=ful acceptance whereof they don’t allow them

=selves to doubt, considering the firm alli=

=ance between them & your Tribes, as also the

– great Justice we have on our side in enter=

=ing into a War with those faithless people.

 

 

[0047] 24

 

The Govern.t have likewise

sent a present much more Considerable th[an]

that we have already delivered to you, w.ch

we are Comanded to lay before you, upon

your assuring us that you will Immediat[ly]

Join with us in the War against the

Eastern Ind.ns, who ought to be Esteemed

as our Comon Enemy.

And not only So, but for the fur

ther Encouragement of your Warlike peopl[e]

they have resolved that the following Sums

be allowed, and paid out of the publick Trea

=sury for the Scalps of our Enemie Ind.ns / Viz /

for every Male of twelve years old & upwar[d]

one hundred pounds in New England Money

and for the Scalps of all others that Sha[ll]

be killed in fight fifty pounds, and for

Each prisoner rendred to the Comanding

Officer of any Regim.t, Company, Troop or

Garrison fifty pounds, and in Case Such priso=

ners be Women, or Children under the age

of twelve years, they shall likewise have

the Sole benefit of such prisoners, togeth[er]

with the plunder they shall take

That for your better accomoda

tion in any Marches your parties Shall

make against the Eastern Ind.ns, this Govern.[t]

have given Directions, that in Case they

should be in want of provision, or ammuni

=tion for that Service they Shall be Sup=

=plyed from the English Garrisons, the

value whereof whall be deducted out of

what may be due to them for any Scalps

by them brought.

 

 

[0048] 24a

 

And as well for the preventing

of any mischief that may happen to them

from our Souldiers by mistake, as for the

avoiding of any Doubts, or Disputes that

may arise about the Scalps that may be

brought in by any of your Parties, it is

ordered by the Govern.t that there be two

Englishmen at least to Join with ten [Ind.ns – crossed out]

of them that shall go out [& ? – crossed out] in [with – crossed out]

quest of the Enemy, and so in proportion

to a greater Number, which English are

to Certifie upon oath, that the Scalp for

which a Premium is demanded is a Scalp

of an Enemy Ind.n / with their age & Sex /

Killed in fight, which Englishmen are

to receive an Equal Proportion with

them for their Scalps and prisoners.

As to the proposal you made

two days agoe, of mending your Guns, Kettles,

and Hatchetts we must tell you that we have

particular Directions what Sums, or value

to advance which we cannot exceed, yet

our Instructions will well allow us to com=

=ply with your desire, provided you chear=

fully come into the proposal now made

to Confirm what we have [now – crossed out] said give

you a belt of Wampum as a Token of the

Hatchet.

 

_________________

 

 

[0049] 25 [Printed in DRCHNY 5:694]

 

Att a meeting of the Com.r[s]

of the Ind.n affairs in alb[any]

the 30.th day of May 1723

 

Present

 

Peter Schuyler

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh          Com.rs of

Ev.t Bancker               ye Ind.n affairs

Ph. Livingston

Joh.s Wendell

Joh.s Bleecker

 

The far Indians that Spake yes=

=terday having brought a Letter from Maj.

Abraham Schuyler dated at the great

Lake the 19.th Instant Said y.t before they

proceed to Speak they desire to hear

the Contents thereof w.ch was told them

to be as follows that he by a Belt of

Wampum told them he was Sent there

by his Excel.y Govern.r Burnet to Invite

and Encourage them and other upper

Nations to come and trade with the

Inhabitants of this place that thirty

Six french from Montreal who were

going up was then with Sd Maj.r Schuyler

and used all their Endeavours to per=

swade them to goe to Canada but that

they would not hear him to what they

said. The Indians said By their Speaker called Sakiema [Sahiema?]

of Denigeariages Nation

 

Brothers Corlaer & Quider

We have long Since Intended

to come and See you here but the ffrench

have

 

 

[0050] 25a

 

have hindered and Stopped us in ye Lake

of Ochswego

 

Brothers Corlaer & Quider

I have this Spring Sent a Canoe

with Indians hither to See the Conveni=

=ency of this place and the peoples be=

=haviour that live here and withal to

present the Six Nations [of Ind.ns – crossed out] with

two Calumet pipes of peace & friendship

which [we have – crossed out] they delivered to the Onnon=

=dages and thought [by – crossed out] wt our Selves yt

when we Sent that Canoe the people

here would have Compassion on us

since we come hither Such a tedious

and long Journey.

Last year I acquainted the

ffrench who live among us that we

Intended to goe to Albany who asked

why will you go to Corlaer & Quider

and if they were our fathers. they

will Certainly kill you and if you

Escape them the Six Nations will do it

We have heard from Ind.ns

who have been here formerly who

acquainted us of the kind treatment

they received [here – crossed out] which has Encou=

=raged us to break thro’ & not hearken

to what the ffrench say

 

 

[0061] 26

 

Brethren

[Here are Indians of two Nations

who I have pswaded to come here and

acquainted them that we would first

goe to Albany & Smoke a pipe with

our Brethren in peace – sentence is crossed out]

 

Brethren

when we came to Toghsaghrodie we

found some of the Ind.ns who live there

at home to whom we told that we

designd to goe to Albany who psently

Joined with us and are now here

with us

We acquaint you that here

is an Ind.n Called awistoenis who is

the author and occasion of our coming

here and is master of Several Nations

A Calumet pipe amongst

our Nations is Esteemed very valuable

and is the greatest Token of Peace

and ffriendship we can Express

A Calumet Pipe of Tobacco

is used when Brethren come together

to visit one another and we hope to

receive such kind & Civil [? crossed out] [treat]

=ment from you in our Trade that we

may with Joy Smoke with our Neigh

=bours when we Return home & tell

them how goods [is – crossed out] are Sold here & gave

a Calumet pipe as a Token of their

Sincerity and desire that it may

be

 

 

[0052] 26a

 

be Shown to those that Shall for the

future come hither

 

They say to the Six Nations

 

Brethren

We have heard long since that you

have Enter’d into an alliance with

Several Nations and agree friendly

with each other, hunt together &

goe a fighting with one another against the

fflatt heads. but we that are so remote

from you have not had such an

Opportunity and acq.t you also y.t

we have always Endeavour’d to go to

Corlaer & Quider but we heard from

a Nation called Aghsiesagichroene

who Endeavour’d to hinder us and told

us many Evil Stories concerning

you but would give no Credit to them

and resolved to come and See

It is a firm Resolution

of our Nations what we Shall now say

to the Brethren here. We have

given to all our friends & to all Nations

with whom we have Entered in Coven.t

a Calumet pipe of peace & friendShip

and as the[y – crossed out] Mohogg are the furthermost from

us we now call them the End of the Six

Nations and desire them to accept

of this Calumet as a Sincere & Solemn

Token thereof. And we Negiariages

now

 

 

[0053] 27

 

Now call our Selves the Seventh Nation[n]

and desire to Be Received as Such

That any of our People that come may

Smoke out of the Same Calumet Pipe

we give a Bever Coat to wrap about

the Same to prserve it

 

A Sachim called Oniestoenis Stood up & said

 

Brother Corlaer & Quider

Last year I was here & told

you I was a Messenger Sent from Tugh=

=saghroende

 

Brother Corlaer & Quider

I am but a [Servant – crossed out] messenger & Speak

in behalf of all those who are here

psent and desire you to have Compa

=sion over [them – crossed out] us. We have Spoke with

one another last year & had some dis

=course together & Entered into a Co=

venant [together – crossed out] with one another and promis.d not to

reveal any thing to those who might

Enquire into our actions

We promised also one another

that we should give no Occasion of any

Breach of that Covent. we Entered into

with you and hope you shall keep it

firm and Inviolable which we promise

Shall be done on our parts give a few

drest Deer

 

Brother Corlaer & Quider

We Speak now in the psence

of Several Nations of us & the Six Nati=

=ons, that you may have Compassion on us

and

 

 

[0054] 27a

 

And do promise we shall not hearken

to any Stories the ffrench may tell us

I have pformed the Engagem.t

you have Enjoined me in Encouraging and

perswading the upper Nations to come

to trade here you see now many of them

here and beg they may be well used

We are Obliged to Complain of the Wag=

=goners who Impose on us by taking an Ex=

=travagant price for a Waggon fraight.

We desire that you may not

be very nice in the trade when we dis=

=pose of what we have to purchase your

Merchandise I speak now of the trade

we are to have together & desire we

may have a Blanket of Strowds for

two Bevers

 

Brother Corlaer & Quider

I desire that according to

your promise & Engagemt. when you

Sent me, we may now have goods Cheap

for you told me that the more of the

upper Nations came here the cheaper

goods would be and beg you to take Care

that we may have cheap penny worths

that those who are now here of the Several

Nations may be fully Satisfied / and I not

be ashamed when I return home / which

will Encourage all ye farre Nations to come

& trade here

 

 

[0055] 28 Printed in DRCHNY 5:696 et seq.

 

Att a meeting of the Com.rs of the

Ind.n Affairs in Albany the 31st day

of May 1723

 

Present

 

Peter Schuyler

H: Holland

Peter van Brugh          Esq.rs Com.rs

Evert Bancker

Philip Livingston

Joh.s Wendell

Joh.s Bleecker

 

Answer made by the Com.rs

to the far Indians —

 

Brethren

We Return you thanks for the

kind & friendly Propositions you made

to us at your arrival & yesterday we

considered on what you said and it is very

acceptable to us to see such a number

of you here and do assure you that

the news of your haveing been here will be

very pleasing to his Excell.y our Govern.r

who uses all proper measures / in his

Power / to Encourage you and all upper

Nations to come & trade with the

Inhabitants of this place for which

purpose he has made a Clean & open

way for you thro’ the Six Nations &

has now sent a Number of Men to lye

at Cadarachqua Lake / whom you have

Seen / to Invite you and all far Nations

to come hether and to assure you [of – crossed out]

that you shall meet with kind treatm.t

and

 

 

[0056] 28a

 

& friendly Entertamm.t from us / and ye people

of this place / and as a Token thereof here

are [two] Wooden Houses built on purpose

for yo.r Accomodation to Lodge in that

you may go where ever you please to see

where you can buy the cheapest penny

=worths and not be compelled to trade

with one or two private Men who

might Exact and Impose upon you, So

that the kind Reception you meet

with and the Little value you are

to pay in Exchange for Goods we doubt not but will

be the Chiefest Motives for you not

to hearken to any [Dispervasions] of the

ffrench not to come here who oblige

you to pay Extravagant prices for [yor – crossed out] their

Goods they have few or no Strowds &

used of late to buy them here but

at the Request of the Brethren of

the Six Nations / with whom we

exhort yhou to keep a friendly corre=

spondence / his Excel.y our Govern.r has

made a Strict prohibition with a

Severe penalty on those that Sell any such

goods to the ffrench so that they

have none now to Supply you with

As you compare a deceit=

=ful heart to a dark Sky So we hope

 

 

[0057] p. 29

 

you will with a Clean and pure

heart Endeavour to the utmost of yo.r

power to come often hither to trade &

pswade all Nations in alliance with

you to do the Like when you Join

in a Body as you have now done the

ffrench will not be able to Stop and

oppose you, and as you are a free peo=

=ple you should not Regard what they

say w.t an Intent to pvent your coming

here, for all what they have hitherto

told you & other upper Nations in disre=

spect of us you know has prov’d to

be false & notorious lyes Invented by

them only that you may go to Canada

and then to make you pay double and

treble the price for goods [yt-crossed out?] you can

have them here for

Now we come to Return you thanks

for your kind psent of the Calumet

pipe of Peace and friendship / which

we take to be now Solemnly conclud

=ed / which we shall keep for you to

Smoke with as often as any of your

Nation Shall come here

We are pleased that those

of the upper Nations who have been here

have done us the Justice to Enform you

of

 

 

[0058] p. 29a

 

of the kind Reception they received

from us and have no Reason to doubt

but you will be so honest as to give

us the Same Character to those who

may Inquire of you what Treatment

you received from us

We do in a most Solemn man=

=ner renew the Covent. Chain w.t you

that was made in your behalf by

Oniestoenis [Owiestoenis?] & yesterday confirmed. &

as you in the behalf of the Six Several

Nations you belong to have Ingrafted

your selves as the Seventh Nation

to this Govern.t we now accept you

as Such and promise on our Side not

to give the least Occasion to make

any Breach between us & shall keep

all Secrets you shall reveal to us & ye

Covent. Chain Inviolable for Ever, w.ch

we do not doubt but will prove to our

mutual Satisfaction & Advantage

We return Owiestoenis thanks

for pforming the message we Sent him

upon and are glad it hath taken Effect

by yo.r coming here and hope before yo.r

Return you shall be so well pleased w.t

the market you meet with for your

Skins that it will not only Encourage

you

 

 

[0059] p. 30

 

you but all the upper Nations to

come & carry on their Trade to this place

As to the Complaint you make

about the Waggoners, We have taken

Care that none of them Shall take or

Exact more from you for a Waggon load

then Nine Shillings if you can tell

us who hath Exacted more from you

Shall be punished for it

We desire you to be friendly

and peaceable and not to do any

mischief in your Marches to peoples

Cattle & [.ct?] wherefore we give you

Sufficient Provisions for your Jour=

=ney Viz         two fatt hoggs

4 1/2 bush: pease

4 1/2 bush: Ind.n Corn

90 loafs Bread

 

In Goods         12 Blankets of Strowds

18 Shirts

26 Gallons Rum

 

 

[0060] p. 30a

 

Propositions made by

an Ind.n of the Castle called

Agiehantikook [Agiehhantehook?] near the

Saint Francois — in Canada

(who says he is Deputed by

the Eastern Ind.ns / to the

Sachims of the Six Nations

of Ind.ns called Maquase

Oneydes Onnondages Cayou=

=ges Sinnekes & Tusquaroras

in Albany the 31th day

of May 1723

 

Present

 

Peter Schuyler

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh

Evert Bancker

Ph: Livingston

Joh.s Wendell

Joh.s Bleecker

 

Interpreted from ye Eastern

Ind.n Language into ye Maquase

by Hendrick [? – crossed out] then into Dutch by

Lowrence Claese & rendred into

English by Philip Livingston

 

Fathers

 

I am glad to meet you here in [Alb – crossed out]

Albany at the place appointed to treat

of peace and other affairs of Moment

with you I begg you to excuse me if I

do not Speak with Such Wisdom as you

[have – crossed out] expect.

 

Fathers that are living at

Albany and the Six Nations

 

If you have any Sorrow or

grief in your hearts I do by this String

of Wampum wipe of your Tears that you

may See with a glad and Cheerful

Countenance gave a String of wampum

If you Should have a har=

dened heart I do by this String of Wam

pum Soften & purifie it that you

may Speak to me w.t a pure heart

void of all Evil gave a String of wampum

 

 

[0061] p. 31

 

This being the appointed place

to treat ab.t peace and tranquility

If there should be any blood Shed any

where through Rashness or misunder=

=standing I do wipe it [off – crossed out] up that it may

not be Seen for the future which also

has been the Custom and Practice of

your and our Ancestors to do when

they mett one another gave a String of Wam[pum]

I Condole the Death of the Sachim

who went last fall ab.t Some publick

affairs to Boston [that – crossed out] and died there

as also of all the Dead who lately died

belonging to you Respectively gave a belt

of Wampum

The Deaths of your friends

and Relations I just now Condold I do

now bury that you may put them out

of your Remembrance & again desire

[they – crossed out] you may [be- crossed out] put them in Everlasting

Oblivion gave a Belt of Wampum

 

Brothers Corlaer & Quider & the Six Nations

We are Informed that a Sachim

of Each of the Six Nations have been

last fall at Boston and from thence

took a Journey to our Country but to

our great grief we were not then at

home but we could partly think on

what Errand they were Sent from Corlae[r]

and

 

 

[0062] p. 31a

 

And the Six Nations, without doubt you

have Endeavourd to be the mediators

between [Boston – crossed out] the [? – crossed out] people [? – crossed out] of N.            England & us because we were

in open War one ag.t another We ack

knowledge we waged War ag.t ye people

of that Govern.t & because you found

us not at home you at the Return

of your Delegates Sent others to per=

form that Message who came to Some

of our people that were hunting last

Winter at the falls near the Lake to

whom they told that they were Sent

by all the Six Nations to tell them if

they were Informed that they had

taken up the hatchet ag.st their Bre=

thren of New England which was a

great grief to them and desired the

S.d Ind.ns to go to the Several Nations

of Eastern Ind.ns & ask of them if they

were drunk or void of Understanding

that they waged War ag.t their Brethren

of N. England and desire them to awake out of their

giddy Sleep

[I] Achjamawat Messenger that

went from the falls to the Eastward

acquainted those Ind.ns what Sd Dele=

=gates told us who after they had

Consulted order’d me to Return

to

 

 

[0063] p. 32

 

to Return to this place and withal

gave me full power & ample authority

[in their Names illeg. – crossed out] to lay down the hatchett of War

in a most Solemn & publick manner [illeg]

lay down that Hatchet of War wh now

the Eastern Ind.ns held in their hands

against the [the – crossed out] People of N England

and I do on their parts & behalfs

bury the Same for Ever In Token

whereof lay down a belt of Wampum

 

Brother Corlaer & Fathers of the Six Nations

I come with full Power and

authority from the Indians of three

Several Castles named by ye Mohoggs

Owanagonga, Kwepowanne, Onjana=

warea and come weeping to brother

Corlaer & our fathers to complain

that Some of our People are priso=

ners at Boston who we desire

may be Released give a Belt of

Wampum

 

 

[0064] p. 32a

 

Propositions made by Wm

Tailer, spencer Phips &

John Stoddard Esq.rs Comrs

appointed by his Majesties

Governt of the Massachuset

bay to the Sachims of

the [? – crossed out] Scaahkook [and – crossed out]

Riverer & Kattskill Ind.ns

in Albany the 1.st day of

June 1723

 

Present

 

William Tailer Esq.rs Members

Specer Phips               of his Maj.es Couns

cil of the [Mas – crossed out]

Province of ye

Mass.tts Bay

John Stoddard Esqr Member of

ye house of Re=

presentatives of

  1. Province

 

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh

Ev.t Bancker               Esq.rs Com.rs

Philip Livingston

John Collins

Joh.s Wendell

 

Brethren

We are come hither as Com.rs

from the Govern.t of ye Massachusetts Bay

to visit the Several Tribes of Nations yt

live in the Neighbourhood & to brighten

the Chain of ffriendship between us

and them, we have already Seen and

Spoken w.t the Six Nations & are like=

=wise glad to See you, who are our

nigher Neighbours, and in ye Same

Covenant wt. us, as the Six Nations are,

and we are to let you know ye regard

yt our Govern.t bear to you; and to renew

the ffriendship that hath long been

maintain’d between them & your tribes

which they will Endeavour always

to Continue And as a Token of yr kind=

=ness for you we shall forthwith in yr name deliver

you a Present.

 

 

[0065] p. 33

 

We doubt not but you are very Sensible

of the Disturbance yt ye Eastern Ind.ns

have very unjustly given us; and that

we have tendered the Hatchett to ye [Six]

Nations upon which proposal they have

not yet given their Resolution but

in as much as your tribes doe not usually

engage in a War w.t out the Six Nations

therefore we do not offer you ye hatchet

at present but don’t Doubt but if ye Six Na=

tions do receive the Hatchett, that you

will be as ready as they to accept the

Same, which will be pleasing to the

Governt. and an Evidence of yo.r friend=

ship to them and if you so do we

shall make an Additional present to

you, and you Shall be entituled to the

same Preemiums as they are for the

Services you shall pform.

The present being brought

the Gentlemen told them This present

we desire may be Equally divided among

your Several Tribes and as we have yet

some business to finish with other Indians

we desire you not to be too free with

[your – crossed out] the Rum now given you but to keep

it till you are going home

 

 

[0066] p. 33a

 

Answer of the Schaah-

=kook, River & Katt Kill

Ind.ns to the forgoing

Proposition [In Albany

the first day of June

1723 – crossed out] made by Wm Tailer

Spencer Phips & John Stoddard

Esq.rs Com.rs appointed by his

Maj.es Governt. of ye Mass.tts Bay

in Albany ye 1st day of June

1729 [1723?]

 

Present

The Same as to ye propo=

sitions

 

They said by ye Speaker named [blank in document]

 

 

Father

 

You told us that you were Sent

by the Governmt. of the Massachusetts Bay

and Impowered by them to Speak unto us

and renew ye Covent Chain for w.ch we re=

turn you Thanks, you [fall’d] in one thing

you call’d us Brethren but we have

always been Esteemed in the Time of

our Ancestors as Children to you and

the five Nations

 

Father

You have Spoken to us and

the Six Nations and have offered the

Hatchett of War to them ag.t ye Eastern

Ind.ns As you are great as well as they

so our Eyes shall be upon them & we shall

act Jointly with them in whatever they

shall undertake

 

[0067] p. 34

 

Father

 

We [who – crossed out] were the Natives of this Country

when the English came first hither

they entered into a Covent. with us

& the five nations w.ch has hitherto

been kept Inviolable by us, and do

now fasten yt Covent. Chain with the

Strongest Tyes of friendship Imagi=

nable to keep it from all Rust the

Proposition you made to the Six na

tions Relating your tendring the

Hatchett of War you say they have

as yet not resolved what to doe We

do assure you that whatever they

shall Consent or Conclude to doe, We

shall willingly Join & act in Conjunc=

=tion wt. them

The Gentlement replyed

as to the mistake in calling you

Brethren Shall be Rectified for

the future what you have now said

is very acceptable to us for w.ch we

Return you thanks & have ordered

a barrel of beer for you to drink

the Kings Health

 

 

[0068] p. 34a

 

Answer made by ye Sachims

of the Six Nations to W.m Tailer,

Spencer Phips, & John Stoddard

Esq.rs Com.rs appointed from the Govern.t

of the Massachusetts Bay

In Albany the 3.d June 1723

 

Present

 

Wm Tailer                   Esq.rs of his Maj.es

Spencer Phips Council of the

Provine of ye

Mass.tts Bay

John Stoddard             Esq.r a member of

ye house of Repre

sentatives of said

Province

 

Peter Schuyler

Henry Holland

Peter v Brugh

Evert Bancker Esq.rs Com.es

Phil: Livingston

John Collins

John Wendell

 

Brother Yehahowanne & Kinsie

We have some days agoe heard

the Propositions you made unt[o] us, and

have rightly understood & Considered

the Same concerning the War you have

with the Easteern Ind.ns how they have

from time to time broken their Engage

ments made with you. it is needless for

the psent to repeat any thing about

that, for our Delegates who have been

at Boston last year have fully Infor=

med us how pfidious they have been

killing our Brethren in New England.

we shall not add further about that

matter   You have acquainted us that

you have Design’d [to] speak with us

here at Albany about one year & half

agoe

 

 

[0069] p. 35

 

And you have in your last Proposition de=

=sired us to take up the Hatchett against

your Enemies ye Eastern Ind.ns now Bre=

=thren we must first acquaint you when

our Delegates arriv’d first at home what

we have done in that affair, we did then

privately Send messengers to ye Eastern

Ind.ns, who we had Enjoined to Speak in

name of us the Six Nations, that they

should lay down the hatchett of War

w.ch they had taken up against you

our Brethren of N England, where upon

an Eastern Ind.n was Sent Messenger

from the lake to those Eastern Ind.ns

who being Returnd, delivered us

his

message a few days agoe in the name

of the three Castles of Eastern Indians

and Spoke to us of the Six Nations with

a Belt of Wampum, told us that they

had laid down the Hatchett of War w.ch

they flung down at the feet of us their

fathers. Therefore Brethren Yehaho=

=wanne and Kinsie we have had a Con=

=sultation about that Hatchett you

tendred us, as also the Hatchett they

have

 

 

[0070] p. 35a

 

have now laid down before us which

they had taken up against N England

we shall now lay them together, and

we desire you our Brethren Yehaho

wanne & Kinsie that you appoint a

place in your Govern.t wherever you

please, where we shall meet you, and

the Chief Sachims of ye Eastern Ind.ns

as soon as you have appointed such

place, we shall send for them to be there

where we shall be your mediators to

Conclude & Confirm the peace between

you and them, and when we shall threat

=en them with hard words gave a belt

of Wampum

 

Brother Yehahowanne & Kinsie

 

We have Just now desired

you to appoint a place in N England

where you, we, and the Eastern Ind.ns

might Conveniently meet one another,

if it please the Brethren to appoint

such place, we desire you not to be

Impatient till we can Speak, & treat conveni=

=ently with those Eastern Ind.ns [the time – crossed out]

 

 

[0071] p. 36

 

[since? – crossed out] Time we think [it will require – crossed out] for us to

goe from hence and be at sd. Meeting

will [require the space of – crossed out] be about Sixty or

Seventy days at [least – crossed out] longest, Since our Children

the Eastern Ind.ns live at a great distance from hence who may then conveni=

=ently come at the place appointed

 

Brethren Yehahowanne & Kinsie

We have Just now desired yt [? crossed out]

[Brethren – crossed out] you might have patience

till the time above mentioned to meet

the sd. Ind.ns. We now desire you to

accept of this small psent, we would

give more but are poor, wherefore

we desire you will excuse us and ac=

=cept it.

 

[new hand]

upon the answer of the Six nations to our

Proposal of their takeing up the hatchet against

the Eastern Indians [and – crossed out] we told them that their

answer was short of what we expected and in as

much as what we had proposed to them was a matter

of Consequence and Required Consideration so also

their answer was of moment and would Require our

thoughts till the next day when we would make a

Reply —

 

[the new hand seems to have done the crossing out and inserting at the top of the page]

 

 

[0072] p. 36a

 

[Answer of the Sachims of the Six

Nations of Indians to – crossed out]

Further Proposition made by Wm Tailer

Spenser Phips & John Stoddard Esq.rs

Com.rs for the Goverm.t of the

Massachusetts Bay to the Sachims

of ye Six nations in Albany ye 4th

of June 1723

 

Present

 

William Tailer Esq.rs of his Maj.es

Spencer Phips Council of ye Pro=

vince of ye Massa=

chusetts Bay

 

John Stoddard Esq.r member of

the house of Represen=

tatives of ye Province

 

Peter Schuyler

Henry Holland

Peter v Brugh

Ev.t Bancker               Esq.rs Com.rs of

Ph. Livingston ye Ind.n Affairs

John Collins

John Wendell

Joh.s Bleecker

 

Brethren

Five Days [agoe] we did in the

Name of our Govern.t offer you ye Hatchett w.ch

you have neither accepted nor refused, but in

stead there of you propose to accomodate the

Difference between us & the Eastern Ind.ns

You know that / some few days agoe /

we renewed the Antient friendship between

us and your Tribes to our Mutual Satisfaction,

but what doth such an alleance avail if it

will not Induce you to assist us, especially

when we offer to recompence your Services

you say you are throughly enformed / by your

Delegates of the many Breaches of Covent.

the Eastern Ind.ns have been guilty of and of

the Murthers by them committed, must not

Justice be done on such pfidious People?

You frequently goe to war when you

can Expect nothing but a little honour to

recompense your Pains, but now you have

 

 

[0073] p. 37

 

an opportunity not only to gain both

Honour and Profit, but to Serve his Maj.tie

King George and his good Subjects your

friends, yet you seem inclinable to Shun it

As to the proposal you make

of our being at peace wt. the Eastern Indians,

it is forraign to our Bussiness, we have no

Instructions in that matter, therefore we can’t

Act therein however since you have men=

=tioned it, we will ask you what good Effect

may from thence be expected You know that

we have divers times made peace wt. them,

and when we have thought our Selves Secure,

they have taken the Advantage and murthered

our People; and why should we expect

better of them now

They have kill’d several people,

destroyed great Estates, put the Governmt.

to Expence, and can you think they must

be Immediatly received into our arms.

You say you will give them

hard Words, but we must think that words

are not Sufficient to oblige those people to

a Suitable behaviour of themselves, but

blows may do it. [W – crossed out]

We can’t imagine yt ye Governt / if

they should be Inclinable at any Time

for peace / would make peace w.t them, un=

=less the Six Nations would firmly Engage

to

 

 

[0074] p. 37a

 

to pursue them vigorously, in Case they

should ever make war w.t us again for

they know that those Ind.ns are too false

to be trusted

Upon the whole we desire you once

more to take into Consideration our Pro=

=posal of taking up ye Hatchett and give

such an answer as may be kindly ac=

cepted by the Govern.t we did / on the de=

=livery of this Speech lay down Six Blan=

kets in stead of a Belt of Wampum

 

Answer of ye Six nations

by their Speaker Thanninsorowee

to the forgoing

Propositions made in the

Morning

 

Present

 

William Tailer Esq.rs of his Maj.es

Spencer Phips Council of ye Pro

vince of ye Mass.tts

Bay

John Stoddard Esq.r a member of

[ye] house of Repre

sentatives of sd Province

 

Henry Holland

Pet. v Brugh

Evt Bancker                Esq.rs Com.rs of ye

Ph. Livingston Ind.n affairs

John Collins

Joh.s Wendell

Joh.s Bleecker

 

Brother Yehahowanne & Kinsie

You have Spoke unto us this

morning, the Contents of your full Pro

=position we shall not now Repeat. You

said you could not trust nor give Credit

to the Eastern Ind.ns and demanded of us

of us what fruit could be expected from

it; That is, the Reason we desired you

to appoint a place in yo.r Governmt to meet

and

 

 

[0075] p. 38

 

and treat with them, and to forbid them

to war any more with you our Brethren.

You told us likewise that

we said that we should use them with hard

Words, we shall now forbid them to war

any Longer with you, But you Brethren

Yehahowanne and Kinsie think the

could be better [be – crossed out] prevail’d upon to make

a Peace with Blows then with hard

Words, we think the Contrary of the

Eastern Ind.ns our Children, we have

but with great mildness Acquainted

them to lay down the Hatchett they had

in hand against you, & they [have – crossed out] forth=

with on our Comands, Sent a Messenger

and delivered the Hatchett unto us,

the Six Nations and promis’d never

to take the Same up again against

the English

 

Now Brethren

You say unto us yt you

can’t understand our meaning. that

we have neither accepted nor refused

the Hatchett, the Reason why we

have not fully answered the Brethren

is, because we desire a Gen.l meeting

at the Town of Boston and think [yt – crossed out] in

the

 

 

[0076] p. 38a

 

The presence of some of the Chief of the

Eastern Ind.ns to give a Satisfactory An=

swer.

 

Brethren

You know well that a few

days agoe we renewed the Covent. with

one another and promis’d each other

that we should be one Head one

heart and one Blood, When we meet

the Eastern Ind.ns at Boston we Shall

acqt them with it in your Presence

and in what firm Conven.t we are

with the Brethren and forbid ym

strictly that they never take up the

Hatchett against you and if they

Strike you again we shall Esteem

the Pain and Smart as if done to

our [own – crossed out] Selves, and therefore we

shall forwarn them in ye Presence

of you, our Brethren Yehahowanne

and Kinsie, and tell them that the

first English Person they shall annoy

or murther that we the Six Nations

shall take up the Hatchett against

them, And when a Peace shall be

concluded between you and them,

we do [promise – crossed out] Ingage to be their

Sureties that they shall perform

whatever

 

 

[0077] p. 39

 

Whatever they promise

We hope you will excuse

us perhaps you might Expect a belt

of Wampum, in Confirmation of yt we say but as we have none, we

desire our Sincerity may be Esteemed as a Suf=

=ficient Token-

[illeg. crossed out]

 

The Gentlemen then said

 

Brethren

We have heard your answer

wherein you have given sufficient

Evidence of your Sincerity and fully

declared your Resolution to let our

Enemies know how firmly you are unit=

ed to us

We told you before that we

were not Instructed to say any

thing of Peace, and indeed there

seems now [to be – crossed out] no occasion for it,

seeing you are Determined to send

Delegates to Boston, there in the

presence of our Governm.t to Speak

with the Eastern Ind.ns; the Governm.t

themselves will then be able to fin=

=ish the Treaty w.ch we have begun

We doubt not but your

sending will be acceptable to the

Governmt, as it hath always been,

and we do assure you that all proper

care

 

 

[0078] p. 39a

 

Care shall be taken that you may

be suetably provided for in your

journey to Boston

We doubt not but this

negotiation will tend to advance

his Maj.es Interest, and will be finish’d

to our mutual Satisfaction

We shall now give orders yt suitable

Provision be made for your Return

to your Respective Castles, where

we wish your safe arrival

 

Brethren Yehahowanne & Kinsie

We return you thanks for yo.r kind

Reply in providing Sufficiently not only

for our Delegats we are to send to Boston

but for our Respective Nations home

You wished us Just now a safe

arrival home & we in like manner wish you

a good Journey. & It will be very acceptable

for us to hear yt. you have mett with no

accident in your Return

In Confirmation of what the

Six Nations have said they gave Six Shouts

after yr. usual Manner

 

 

[0079] p. 40 [hand changes: Robert Livingston Jr. to Philip Livingston?] [See Wraxall p. 147 for a summary that clarifies some illegible portions of this entry]

 

Att a meeting of the Com.rs

of the Indian Affairs in Albany

the 5th of June 1723

 

Present

Henry Holland

Pet. v Brugh

Evert Bancker

John Collins

Ph: Livingston

Joh.s Wendell

 

Esq.rs

Com.rs

 

Brethren

 

We Shall first tell you that Lourence

was Directed by us to Condole the Deaths of

the three Sachims that died last fall belong=

ing to the Sinnekes which he says he has done

and desire you to let us know what wise men

are appointed in their Room that we may

approve of them

We are glad to see so many of the

Sachims of the Six Nations here, and of having

the opportunity of Treating with you concern=

=ing some affairs of great Moment in Respect

to this Governmt but before we proceed it is

necessary to tell you that we think you can’t

[have] forgott with how happy an agreem.t

firm assurances and hearty Resolutions

the meeting with your Brother Corlaer the

Govern.rs of Virginia and Pennsylvania

Ended, that if they be well observed we shall

always meet wt. Joyful Countenances

You then promis’d Solemnly that

you would not Correspond with the ffrench

of Canada but adhere & cleave Strongly

to the English, that you would give all the

Encouragem.t and Assistance that lay in your

Power

 

 

[0080] p. 40a

 

Power to the far Ind.ns to come hither &

not only so but that you had sent agents to

Invite those far Ind.ns who trade with the

french to come here. In behalf of his

Excel.y our Govern.r we come to tell you y.t

you have not been Sincere in yo.r promise

and Engagemt.s in this Respect. Since

we have received an accn.tt that you have

harboured Jean Coeur the french Interpreter in one

of your Castles all last Winter, and have

Consented that he might build a trading

[house?] at Kaskeghsago near Theronde

[=quatt] on Land you Long since [?] Resigned

for the Crown of great Brittain. Consider

[if?] this agrees w.t a [free – crossed out] [passage?] the

[-? &] [Promises – crossed out] Assurances you have given of

a free passage for the far Ind.ns to this

place w.ch is quite the Reverse for when

[this House is built] the French will

soon turn it into a fort and not only

prevent the far Ind.ns from coming

hither but also gett all the furr your

Selves bring from hunting, and be a

means to make themselves master of

all your Country. how can you Expect yt.

this will be well taken by his Excel.y yo.r

Brother Corlaer. We do therefor in his

name Require you not to suffer the

french to make any Settleme.t in your

Country

 

 

[0081] p. 41

 

Country nor to let any come among you

who only breed Division among you. His

Excel.cy desired you two years agoe that

when the ffrench came among you again

to let them know that you disapproved

of their Coming into your Country and

living on your Land at Jagara or any

where else, that you should give them

positive Notice to take that house away

and to come no more into your Country,

and that after this warning given ym

if they do not return home you should

Complain to his Excellency and inform

him who the psons are that offend after

the regular Notice given by his Excell.ys

order, but we do not hear from you that

you have given such Notice or are displeasd

at their Settling on your Land, tho for=

merly you used to make your Complaints

that the ffrench Ind.ns annowyed you in

[their – crossed out] your Hunting. we want to know what

has been done in that particular &

hope you’l give such answer as may be

acceptable to his Excel.cy hereon gave

a large belt of Wampum

 

Att a meeting of ye Com.rs Same day

Present

The Same as befor

except Ph: Livingston

 

Two of the Oneydes, Cayouges & Tusquarora[s]

come & inform us yt they expected Lead & Powder

from ye Boston Gentle.mn but gott none & desire

ye Com.rs to have Compassion on them &

Supply them

 

 

[0082] p. 41a

 

Att a meeting of the Com.rs

of Ind.n Affairs in Albany

the 5th day of June 1723

 

Present

 

Henry Holland

Peter v Brugh

Ev.t Bancker

John Collins

Joha.s Bleecker

 

Esq.rs Com.rs

of the Ind.n

affairs

 

The Six Nations by Thannintsorowee

their Speaker say

 

Brother Corlaer

 

You have made a Proposition

to us this Morning in his Excellencys Name

and told us that you thought we could not

forgett what we formerly promised to his

Excellency that we should have no Corre=

spondence with the ffrench, and that

we would Comand the ffrench to break

down their House at Jangerah, and if

they refused to do it, that we should Im=

medeatly Inform his Excel.cy who would

represent it to the great King George

 

Brethren

We hope you will excuse us at

this Juncture, we shall when our Deputys

goe to Boston send you a full answer and

now take the [Band – ? crossed out] Belt you gave us to our

Country

 

 

[0083] p. 42

 

Att a meeting of ye Com.rs of

the Ind.n Affairs in Albany the

5th June 1723

 

Present

Henry Holland

Pet.r v Brugh

Ev.t Bancker

John Collins

Joh.s Bleecker

 

Answer of the Six Nations to the

Messenger Sent from the Eastward

 

Children

 

You tell us that the Hatchett you

have had in your hands against our Bre=

thren of N England you lay down at our

feet, and promise never to take it up again

we hope you will be as good as your Word

and pform what you promise. Last fall we

Sent Delegates to Boston and from thence

to your Country, to disswade you from warring

any more against our Brethren. You must

think yt we will take the Cause upon us,

for it is very hard to see one Brother

murder another, You must know that we

are in a firm Covent. w.t the Brethren

of N England, w.ch we will always keep &

maintain. We acquaint you that we are

one Heart, one Blood and one Body, there=

fore have we appointed a meeting at the

Town of Boston and desire you that all

your principal Sachims may appear there

fifty Seven Days hence that we may hear

what

 

 

[0084] p. 42a

 

What Reason they had to War against

our Brethren and desire that they do

not neglect to appear on our appointed

places and if they are negligent to [ap= crossed out]

come at s.d meeting it will take no good

End, Our Delegates shall be there att

the appointed time

 

Children

We have not fully answered to

Every Article of the Message Sent to us. We

refer till we meet one another at Boston

 

[change to Ph. Livingston’s hand?] [See Wraxall p. 147 for a summary that includes commentary biased against the Dutch?]

 

Att a meeting of the Com.rs of the Indian

affairs in Albany the 16th day of June 1723

 

Present

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh

John Collins

Philip Livingston

Johan.s Bleecker

 

Esq.rs Com.rs

 

Ten Far Indians being arrivd to this City

Liveing in a Castle Called by them [blank in original]

[? crosed out] say that they are come on purpose to See

how goods are Sold here, desire the Com.rs they may

be [well cmd] by the [traders] and have goods Cheap. that

[that – crossed out] which will Encourage many of their nation to Carry

on their trade to this place gave a few Skins

The Com.rs told y.m y.t they would find a vast difference

in the price of goods here & that they [?] to buy of the french

that his Ex.ly our gov.r takes nothing more to [heart – crossed out] his Consideration [than]

to Incourage y.m that they may not be Imposd upon

for w.h and he has Causd houses to be build on ye hill

for their Conveniency to lodge in that they may go

and buy where they can [buy – crossed out] gett the Cheapest penny

Worth, & gave them Some Rum . Indian Corn

peace etc.

 

 

[0085] p. 43

 

Att a meeting of ye Com.rs of Indian

Affairs in Albany y.e 19th June 1723

 

Present

 

Coll. Peter Schuyler

Capt: Holland

Capt. v.n Brugh

Capt. Banker

Capt Collins

Mr. Ph Livingston

Capt. John Bleecker

Mr Joh.s Wendell

Mr Evert Wendell

 

A Letter from his Ex.ly governour Burnet dated ye 15th Instant being

Communicated to this board and read. Directing the Commissioners

to tender the oath provided by the last act of assembly

to prevent the trade to Canada for Indian goods to all persons

Suspected and that have traded with Canada for Christian

goods Since the Commencement of ye last [oct] in —

[Hidience ? ye Province?] thereto it was Resolved to [Secarence? Sumonce i.e.        Summon?] [send for – crossed out] all

persons Suspected & those who have traded for Christians

goods toi Canada to tender the Said oaths unto them

 

The persons to whom this oath was tenderd this day

are [? – crossed out] hereunder (vizt.)

 

Jacob Wendel Son of Harmanus Wendell

Johannis Schuyler Refurd [Refusd?]

Philip Schuyler Refusd

Cornelis Cuyler Refusd

Nicolas Bleecker

Harmanus Wendell

Samuel Doxsie

 

Pursuant to an act of gen.l assembly of ye Colony of new

york Entituled an act for the further & more effectuall —

prohibiting of ye Selling Indian goods to the french [?crossed out] Executions

for Committing [Coll] John Schuyler & j Philip Schuyler were directed to the [sherrif?] of ye City & County of [Albany]

[were directed – crossed out] till they Shall pay each one hundred pounds

[were directed to the Sherrif – crossed out] to be applyed towards the building

and Repairing [the – crossed out] such of the firtifications of this Colony as

the gov.t or Comanders in Chief for the time being Shall think

fit

 

 

[0086] p. 43a

 

Att a meeting of the Comes

of the Indian affairs in albany

the 20th day of June 1723

 

Present

 

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh

Evert Bancker

John Collins

Philip Livingston

Johan.s Wendell

Joh.s Bleecker

Evert Wendell

 

Esq.s Com.rs

 

The Commissioners Sent this day for severall

Persons suspected to have traded or Trafiqued with the Subjects

of ye French King, or unto any other person for y.m contrary to ye

meaning and Intent of an act of general assembly of ye

Colony of new york Entituled an act for ye Encouragement of ye

Indian trade and Rendring it more Bnificiall to the Inhabitants

of this Province and for Prohibiting ye Selling Indian goods to ye.

french and tendred unto them the oath to be taken by Such

Suspected persons precribed in one other act of gen.rl assembly

of the s.d Province Entituled an act for the further & more Effectuall

Prohibiting ye selling of Indian goods to the french the

persons who take ye said oath are hereunder named vizt

 

Stephanis Groesbeck

Jeremy Schuyler

Abraham Cuyler

Johannis J. Cuyler

John Roseboom Jun.r

Gerrit Roseboom

Johannis Roseboom

Johannis Lansingh Jun.r

Hendrick Bleecker

Hendrick Ten Eyck

Jacob Lansingh

David Schuyler

Robt. Roseboom

Jacob Beeckman

Hendrick Cuyler

Hendrik Roseboom

 

 

[0087] p. 44

 

Att a meeting of the Commission.rs

of the Indian affairs in albany

the 22th day June 1723

 

Present

 

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh

Evert Bancker

John Collins

Philip Livingston

Johan.s Wendell

Joh.s Bleecker

Evert Wendell

 

Com.rs

Albany 22d June 1723

 

May it please your Excellency

 

We have received your Excel.ys Letter of ye 18th

Instant whereby we perceive that your Ex.cy

is pleased that so great a Number of far Ind.ns

have been here. [&] they have been well treated

at this place in their Trade, and we have

given them a very kind Reception and all

possible Encouragement here have been

[made?[ Since and more others expected but

[we] hear that they have not been well used at

Schenectady, partly thro’ the Management

of one Cornelis van Slyck and Sons who

make themselves Masters of their Effects

in Conveying them in their Canoes to that

Town as soon as they arrive their Waggons

are ready to ride away their Effects, that

often do not know what is become of them

and throw ye packs in particular houses

As the Assembly hath resolved

to make a further Provision for ye Encourag.t

of those Pno.ns , we hope it may have ye desir’d Effect

in promoting & preserving this new Trade

 

 

[0088] p. 44a

 

According to your Excel.ys Directions the

oath provided by the last Act of assembly

to prevent the Canada Trade for Ind.n Goods

has been tender’d unto Coll. John Schuyler

and his Eldest Son who have goth refus’d

on w.ch Warrants are drawn to be Issued

according to the Directions of ye s.d Act

but the Sherif being out of Town Sur=

veying Land for the Palatines and is ex=

pected in a Day or Two

Inclosed your Excel.y has an affida=

vit of Jacob Wendell who has been att

Canada Son of Mr. Harmanus Wendell

whereby it appears that Strowds has

been Transported for [Canada – crossed out] the use of

the ffrench. We had most all psons in

Town that have traded w.t Canada for

Christian Goods before us who have tak=

=en the Oaths [for Christian – crossed out] M.r Cornelis

[Sch – crossed out] Cuyler & Cap.t Goose van Schaick have

refused and Warrants are Issuing when

we had them all before us we Shall Send

your Excel.y Certificates how it has happend

We desire your Excel.y to be assurd

that nothing shall be Wanting on our

part for ye Effectual putting yo.r Excel.ys Order

in Execution Yesterday arrivd here

three ffrench Men with a pasport from

the Gov.r of Canada to go and see their

Uncle in the Province of Pensylvania

(a famous trader there / they are going

down by this Opportunity, they have no

Letters

 

 

[0089] p. 45

 

Letters for your Excel.cy from their Gov.r

tho’ they say others are coming who they

suppose may have some we take leave

to Conclude with that we are sincerely

 

 

May it please yo.r Excel.y

Your Excel.y most humble &

most obed.t Servants

 

was Sign’d

 

Henry Holland

Pieter van Brugh

Evert Bancker

Philip Livingston

John Collins

Johannis Wendell

Johan Bleecker

Evert Wendell

 

[new hand]

The Commissioners now psent took the oath precribed

to be taken by an act of generall assembly of ye

Colony of n: york Entituled an act for the further &

more Effectuall prohibiteing ye selling Indian goods

to the french, as also did Myndert Schuyler

& Jacob Glen

 

Cornelis Cuyler & Goose van Schaick being Sumoned to appear before this meeting Refused to take

the said oath In Pursuance of the s.d act Executions

are directed to the Sherrif of ye Citty & County of Albany

for Committing the S.d Cornelis Cuyler & goose van Schaick

till they Shall pay each one hundred pounds to be

applyed towards the building and Repairing Such of

the fortifications of this Colony as the Gov.r or Comanders

in Chiefe for the time being Shall think fitt

 

 

[0090] p. 45a [Entire page is crossed out but legible]

 

Att a meeting of the Commissioners

of the Indian affairs in albany

the 25th day of June 1723

 

Present

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh

Evert Bancker

John Collins

Philip Livingston

Joh.s Wendell

Evert Wendell

 

[new hand?] Fourteen Indians from Twightwighs

by the ffrench called Miamies being arriv’d to

this town Say by their Speaker Called Dewa=

=dirho native of Onnonbdage settled among said

Indians being formerly taken prisoner by them

 

Brother Corlaer & Quider

We are arrived here and have undergone great

difficulties for the ffrench continually oppose

our coming hither and tell us that if we

venture to goe to this place we Shall

Certainly be killed either by the five Nations

or by our Brethren, but we have now

Struggled and forced to come & See you as

but few of us have been here before so

we crave a favour from you to have com=

passion on us that we may have goods

Cheap We lay down the Calumet pipes

as a Token that we have been here to

be kept by you to Smoke out of in case

there should happen any misunderstand=

=ing between us that it may be reconciled

in Smoking of Tobacco

We desire you to have Compassion on us and

on our Wives and Children that we may

have Goods cheap and be provided with

[? crossed out] provision that when we come home we

may Say yt we have been well used & Civily

treated by our Brethren

 

 

[0091] p. 46

 

Att a meeting of ye Commissioners

of the Indian affairs in albany

the 25th day of June 1723

 

Present

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh

Evert Bancker

John Collins

Ph. Livingston

[Joh. Bleecker – crossed out]

Joh.s Wendell

Evert Wendell

 

Esq.rs Com.rs

 

This day the Com.rs Sent for Severall persons

Suspected to have traded or trafiqued with the Subjects of

the french King, or unto any other person for them

contrary to the meaning and Intent of an act of gen.l

assembly of the Colony of new york. Entituled an act

for the Encouragement of the Indian trade and Rendring

it more benificiall to the Inhavitants of this Province

and for Prohibiting the Selling Indian goods to the

french, and tendred unto them the oath to be taken

by Such Suspected persons precribed in one other act of

Gen.l assembly of ye s.d Province Entituled an act for

for the further and more Effectuall Prohibiteing the

Selling of Indian goods to the french. the persons

who take the sd. oath are here under named vizt.

 

Hendrick DeRidder

Johannis van Bergh

Niecolass Schuyler

Daniel fort

Dirck Ten Broeck

John.s Peyster

Philip Verplank

Jacob Glen

Johannis Myndertse

 

Whereas Hans Hansen and John Schuyler Jun.r are

Complained of to have traded with the Subjects of the

french King for Indian goods contrary to the [? crossed out]

 

 

[0092] p. 46a

 

True Intent and meaning of an act of generall

assembly of the Province of new york Entituled an act

for the further and more Effectual Prohibiting y.e

Selling of Indian goods to the french Resolved

that Sumonses pursuant to the directions of the said act be

Issued to the Sherrif of the City and County of albany

Commanding him Imediately to bring the s.d Hans

Hansen & John Schuyler before one or more of the

Com.rs of the Indian affairs. that they may be

tendred the oath provided by the said act to be taken

by persons Suspected to have traded for Indian goods

with any of the french Kings Subjects

 

Magepanans a River Indian going to the upper

nations was given by the Com.es a String of wampum

a Blanket & a keg with Rum to Invite them to

come to trade with the Inhabitants of this Province

and to give them all Imaginable Incouregment

& assurence that they Shall be well Come [and – crossed out] ye s.d

Indian was promist [a g – crossed out] to be well Rewarded [if he – crossed out]

if at his Return he brings down a large Company

with him

 

 

[0093] Page 47 is blank

 

 

[0094] p. 47a

 

Att a meeting of the Com.rs of the

Indian affairs in albany y.e 12th

day of July 1723

 

Present

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh

Ph: Livingston

Joh.s Bleecker

Evert Wendell

 

Esq.rs Com.rs

 

Fourteen indians from Twightwights by the

french called Miames being arriv’d at this Town

say by their Speaker called Dewadirko native

of Onnendage Settled among Sd Indians being for=

=merly taken prisoner by them

 

Brother Corlaer and Quder

We are arrivd here & have undergone great diffi

culties for the ffrench Continually oppose our

coming hither and tell us that if we venture

to goe to this place we shall certainly be killed

either by the five nations or by you our Bre

=thren, but we have now Struggled and forced

our way to come and see you, as but few of

us have been here before so we crave a favour

from you to have Compassion on us that we may

have goods Cheap We lay down two Calamet pipe

/ as a Token that we have been here / to be kept

by you to Smoke out off in case there Should happen

any misunderstanding between us yt it may be re

=conciled in Smoaking of Tobacco

We desire you to have Compassion on us and

on our wives and Children that we may have

Goods cheap and be provided with provision

that when we come home we may Say

that we have been well used & Civily

Treated by our Brethren

 

[see identical crossed out entry for June 25th]

 

 

[0095] p. 48

 

An Indian Native of Onnondages Called [ye]

Oquaront who has been on hunting two year

and been with a Nation of Indians called by

the Indians Agottsaragoka being Scituated

beyond the Twightwighs who are inclind

to come to carry on their Trade hither and

have sent this Messenger to Endeavour to

make a free passage thro’ the five Nations

to come to trade at Albany and desire

they may be kindly received & have goods

cheap when they come give a few drest Deer

 

Some Indians from Tughsaghronde by the

ffrench called Detroit Say Brethren here

is the place where the Covenant between

you and us is made under the Tree of [Peace and – crossed out]

Friendship

We desire that the Covenant Chain may always

be kept Clean & Bright. We are now come

to renew it and hope that the Path from

our Country hither may always be kept

Clean from all Weeds and Stumbling blocks

and beg that we may as usual have goods

Cheap and be well treated in Trade

give a few drest Deer

 

Answer to ye Twightwighs

We are very glad to see you here

and that you do not hearken to what

the ffrench say with a view to hinder you

from coming to trade at this place. We

desire you not to give Creditt to what they

say

 

 

[0096] p. 48a

 

Say for they will use all means to pvent yo.r

coming to us but as you are a free people

you do well to carry on your Trade where

you find Goods cheapest you have the

Liberty to go and buy where you please

and can [buy – crossed out] gett the best penny worths for

w.ch purpose his Excel.y our Gov.r has caus’d

two houses to be built on ye hill for yo.r

Conveniency We shall keep ye Calumet

pipes and Show as often as any of

your Nations come here and do assure

you yt you Shall always be welcome to

trade and have Goods as Cheap as any

of our Brethren ye five Nations, give

you in his Excel.ys name two blankets

Strowds & three large Casks Rum

to show your people what Goods we

have to supply you with

Answer to ye Messenger

We give Oquaront thanks for the

Message he brought from ye Oguttsarahake

Nation We desire him to assure those

Indians yt they need not fear coming

hither to trade, We promise they shall

be kindly receivd & have Goods as Cheap as can be afforded

and the more of the upper Nations come

here the more plenty [here – crossed out] will be pro=

=vided here for them, the five Nations

have promised to give a free passage

to you give for sd Nation 2 blankets Strowds

& three large Keggs Rum

 

 

[0097] p. 49

 

Answer to the Tachsaghrondie Indians

We are glad to see you here where ye Tree

of peace and friendship is planted whose

branches reach unto ye remotest Nations

of Indians We do renew the Covent Chain

with your Nation & do assure you yt ye path

Shall always be kept Clean you shall be

kindly received & have goods as Cheap

as our own People gave ym three Keggs

Rum and Six hatts and to them all in

Company was given a Bull 12 Skeple Ind.n

Corn & pease &          loaves of bread

Then the Com.rs told ye far Indians that

his Excel.y our Gov.r is well pleasd to hear that

a great Number of them have been here to

trade and desires that some of ye principal

Sachims Should go to him to N York he being

desirous to Speak with them and will pay

their Charge & give ym good Encouragement

The far Indians Reply’d y.t it was too late in ye

year to go down to N. york being [far from – crossed out] Come

a great way but ye next Spring Some of them

Should go to his Ex.cy.

 

 

[0098] Page 49a is blank.

 

 

[0099] p. 50

 

Att a Meeting of the Com.rs of Indian

Affairs in Albany the 9th of Aug.t

1723

 

Present

 

Coll. Peter Schuyler

Henry Holland

John Collins

Ph: Livingston

Joh.s Bleecker

Evt Wendel

 

Esq.rs

Com.rs

 

The Deputies of the five Nations going

to Boston make the following Speech to the

Com.rs by Odastichta their Speaker

 

Brother Corlaer & Quider

Last Summer were here three Gov.rs

who had Sent for us and in our Return from

that meeting died Some of our principal

Sachims, Mean while the Com.rs have Sent

Word to Maj.r Abraham Schuyler to appoint

a Sachim in the Room of Blewback and

you desired us when we were here to treat

with the Boston Com.rs to appoint a fitt pson

in his Room on which we have thought fitt to

appoint one of his nearest Relations called

[Annatseineiin ?] in his Head [and – crossed out] we Desire you

may have the Same Esteem and Regard

for this pson that you had for the Blewback

He was a Man always true to the English

Interest & Cultivated the Happiness of

the five Nations. We doubt not but this

pson will follow his Example and hope y.t

we & our Childrens Children shall follow the

Steps of our Ancestors give a blt of Wampum

Brother Corlaer & Quider

When his Excell.cy our Gov.r & the Gover.r

of Virgin.a & Pensylv.na were here his Excel.y

gave

 

 

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gave us a Belt of Wampum to Speak to the

French and Order them to break down their

house at Iagara & not to come any more among

us nor to make any Settlements on our Land

* & also to break down the house he made at

Jagara on which he made answer [by – crossed out] with a

belt of Wampum as a Token that his

Excel.y Gov.r Burnet was but a Servant of

the King of England & ye Gov. of Canada

of the King of ffrance [and – crossed out] that he would

acquaint his Master the Gov.r of Canada with

the Proposition they Delivered him [and – crossed out] if he

Comanded that the house Should be demoli-

shed it should forthwith be done

 

Brother Corlaer & Quider

You told us this Summer yt we did not

pform what we had promisd to his Exel.y our

Gov.r We thought that the answer from ffrance

would come sooner to you then to us for we

know the Kings of England & ffrance have

a Correspondence

 

Brother Corlaer & Quider

We have long since Complained to y.o

that the ffrench Ind.ns called the Waganhas

annoy’d us on our hunting and now they are

become as our Brethren & come to trade at

this place [and – crossed out] We are now Entirely Recon

=ciled with those Ind.ns since they are Entred

into the Covenant Chain with us. You are not

pleasd that the ffrench have a house at Jagara

what they do is for their Interest as our Bre=

=thren do among us, and we will not Suffer the

french to keep our Land.

 

* As soon as we came home we told Jean Coeur w.t the

Same belt of Wampum we received not to come any

more among us nor to make any Settlements on

our Land

 

 

[0101] p. 51

 

Brother Corlaer & Quider

 

We were Desired two years ago by his Excel.y

Gov.r Burnet to let the ffrench know that —

might come among us again that we disapprov’d

of their coming into our Country & Living on

our Land at Jagara or anywhere Else We [hav – crossed out]

have given Jean Coeur the french Interpreter

Notice to take away that house at Jagara &

to come no more into our Country We the

Sachims of the five Nations being forty two

in Number do now make our Complaint unto [y.o]

that Jean Coeur will not take away y.t house

till he has Orders for so doing from the

Gov.r of Canada give a Belt of Wampum

We think it our Duty to acquaint yo

that we are going to Boston to treat of Some

publick affairs and that it was Concluded

by us and the other Sachims before We came

from home to Desire you to appoint three

of your Number to go with us to be psent

at the Treaties w.ch are to be held at Boston

and we have appointed Coll. John Schuyler

to go [along – crossed out] with us and it would likewise

be Convenient that Laurence Should go

Answer made by the Com.rs to the

foregoing Propositions

We are Concerned that on your Return

from the last Meetting that his Excel.y Gov.r

Burnet the Gov.r of Virgin.a and Pensyl.na

had with you here some of your Sachims

died We must Submit to Divine Providence &

According to your ancient Custom the Deaths

of those Sachims are Condold, We are well

pleased

 

 

[0102] p. 51a

 

pleas’d with Annutseerie who is appointed

instead of the Blewback We hope this

Man [may – crossed out] will follow the Example of his pre=

=decessor for the English Interest and pro=

=sperity of the five nations in general &

that you will appoint other good Men in

the Room of the other Sachims

You tell us that when his Excel.y Gov.r Burnet & the Gov.rs of

Virgn.a & Pennsyl.na were here; he desired you

to tell the ffrench to break down ye house

at Jagara & not to come any more amongst

you that as soon as you went home you

performed the Message and that they an=

swered that they would Send his Excel.ys

Belt to the Gov.r of Canada who would

Send it to the [Regent] of France and if

he Order’d them to pull down the House

they would Imediatly do itt, but that his

Excel.y and their Gov.r were both but Serv.ts

to their respective Princes You tell us

further that you sent us this y.r Answer

We must tell you that we never rec’ed their

Answer on that head, but since you now

repeat that their Answer to us and Com=

=plain of their not complying with your De=

=mands, We shall acquaint his Excel.y of it,

who will no Doubt take proper measures

about the Affair

We are glad that the Waganhas are

come into the Covent. Chain and yt. you are

in an Entire friendship w.t them w.ch is

very agreeable to this Governm.t and the

Cleaner and more Open you keep that

path, the more your fidelity & good design

[for]

 

 

[0103] p. 52

 

for the Service of this Govern.t [will appear – crossed out] and your

own Strength and Security will appear

You have done well to acquaint us

of your going to Boston, We wish you a

good Journey and doubt not but you’l

Act like wise Men, but we cannot Inter

=meddle in that affair having no Direc=

tions from his Excel.y about it, if you had

had any Intentions to have any of us along

with you, you ought to have propos’d it

at your Treatie with the Com.rs of Boston

Since that time we could have acquainted

his Excel.y our Gov.r with it and known his

pleasure on that head

 

 

[0104] Page 52a is blank

 

 

[0105] p. 53

 

Att a Meeting of the Com.rs of Indian affairs in Albany the 20th

day of August 1723

 

Present

Henry Holland

Peter v. Brugh

Evert Bancker

John Collins

Philip Livingston

Joh.s Bleecker

Evert Wendell

 

Esq.rs

Com.rs

 

Resolved that the following

Letter be write to his Excel.y W.m Burnet

Esq.r Gov.r of &ct

 

May it please your Excellency

 

We are honour’d with your Excellencies favours

of the 9th and 13th Instant by the first perceive

that two of the Nonjurors have given Security

for £ 100 — each we wish the rest would do the

like to prevent further trouble we have ad=

=vised the Chief Justice Relating y.e tendring

the Oath again to those that have Refus’d

The allowance your Excel.y hath been pleas’d

to allow to the Smith is with the £15–

what former Smiths have had for a years

Service in the Sinnekes Country

On the 16.th Instant we reced a Letter from

Lawrence Claese the Interpreter that an

Ind.n from Canada in 22 days Inform’d him

that 20 Eastern Ind.ns were gone out with a

Design to cutt of a Town in N England and

had pitch’d on Deer field or the next Town

to that on which we Immediatly Sent an

Express with a Letter to Westfield to Inform

the Gentlemen there with this Intelligence

who was Stopped by two Men from Boston

who told him the Melancholy news —

as

[0106] p. 53a

 

As they [tell us] that as they came from

Westfield a Post came there on ye 14th

Instant that a Town Called Rutland of

about 6o families newly Settled Chiefly

by [ye?] Irish was cut of Scituated about 10

Miles north East from of Town Called

Quaback being the next to Deerfield the

particulars they do not know We sent on

the 10th Instant by these Men s.d Letter to

Show that we did advise them of their

Approaching Danger from ye Savagges

As we have had Sufficient proof of the

many Outrages committed on his Maj.es

Subjects in America by ye Indians thro’

the Insinuations of the ffrench yt are

among them in Canada & do not know

how the Ind.ns may be prevail’d upon to

attaque us and perhaps first ye Block=

house at Mount Burnet wherefor we

humbly propose that his Excel.y will be

pleased to order ye Same to be Stockadoed

[in?] the best manner it can be

We are Informed yt these two men from

Boston had a Letter from ye Lieut. Gov.r

Council & Assembly & one of ye Lieut. Gov.r

directed to Coll.s Peter & John Schuyler

on which the Latter went from hence

yesterday in order to go for Boston, that

they Intend to make him Chief of all

their forces. if he does accept of it we

leave your Excel.y to Judge what the Ill

Consequence thereof may be In Respect

to this Governm.t [W.th] great Respect

we remain was Sign’d Henry Holland Pet.r v. Brugh

Ev.t Banker John Collins

Ph. Livingston Joh. Ble[ecker]

Evert Wendell

 

 

[START OF MINUTE BOOK IV?]

 

[0107] p. 54

 

[Page is very dark but with use of Preview App can be seen to say]

 

“Minutes of the C[ommisioners?]

 

[of? In]dian Affairs”

 

[with some squiggles and doodles as well as an ornate floral design.]

 

 

[0108] [p. 54a]

 

  1. Cos 1 JCy.    5                                  [Tarronegsa ??]

H H   2                                  PVB    6

E.B      3                                  EW.     7

  1. 4 PL.      8

 

[Sidebar] Daroy          Da[illeg]

 

 

[0109] p. 55

 

Albany 29th August 1723

 

May it please your Excellency

 

We take leave to inform yo.r Excellency that

Montour an Ind.n being Sent / by Order of the Late

Lord Viscount Cornbury when Gov.r of ye Province

of N York / in August 1708 to treat with the Ind.ns

of ye far Nations about their Commerce with the

Inhabitants of this Province at the earnest Be

=quest of ye sd Montour the Com.rs of the Ind.n affairs

at Albany brought his Son Michell to ye Reve=

rend Mr. Thomas Barclay which was about five years and

a half he has been taken Care of as to his Dyet

& Clothing but Especially in his Schooling and well

Instructed in ye principals of Christianity & good

Morality for which sd Mr. Barclay has disoursed

the Sum of fifty five pounds as may appear by

the acco.tts & Vouchers ready to be produced and

it is but Just that he should be Reimbursed

by this Province out os some publick money

in the Treasury Wherefore we humbly hope

your Excel.y will be pleased to take ye Case

of this Gentleman into your wise and Serious

Consideration

 

 

[0110] p. 55a

 

Consideration that his Spouse & family may be

no sufferers by means of ye publick in which

your Excel.y will sensibly oblidge

 

May it please your Excel.y

Yo.r Excel.ys most humble & most

obedient Servants —

 

 

[0111] p. 56    [Gap of 10 years in dates?]

 

Att a meeting of the Com.rs of Indian

Affairs at Albany the 9.th Day of

June 1733 [1723?]

 

Present

 

Myndert Schuyler

Stevan[us] Groesbeeck

Abraham Cuyler

Reyer Gerretse

John Depeyster

 

This Board having rec’d a Letter

from Capt. [Banks] Commanding Officr at Osweg[o]

thought fitt to forward the Same to his Excel.y

the Governour under Cover of one from this

Board which is as follows                   Viz

 

Albany 9th June 1733

 

May it please your Excellency

 

Sir

We beg leave to acquaint your Excel.y

that we have rec’d the Enclosed Letter from the Comand[ing]

Officer at Oswego to w.ch we refer you

The prisoner is here in Gaol whe’r

he must remain till delivered by Course of [L.nn]; or

till your Excellency give orders about him

The [I]ndians [having] Expected your Exc[el.y]

Early in the Spring are very Impatient to See you att

Albany to Congratulate your Arrival to your Governm.t

The Two Men that brought Down

the Prisoner mett Cap.t [Nelson] with his comand the 7th

Instant about half Way to Oswega, and they were all in

[good Sider]

We are told that there is but a very poor

Trade this Year, a great many of the farr Nations of

Indians dying of the Small pox that rages among them.

We are w.th the greatest Respect

 

May it please your Exc

Your Exce.ys most Obed &

humble Servants

 

Myndert Schuyler

Stevanis Groesbeeck

Abraham Cuyler

Reyer Gerritse

John Depeyster

 

 

[0112] p. 56 a

 

3

Att a meeting of the Com.rs 3d Aug.st 1733

The following Letters were Wrote

 

Sir

 

We have rec’d a Letter from Mr Morris w.th Copy of yours of the [6th] July

last yr in you [sd] confes’d unto us yt it was his Excys pleasure that we

­should [Instruct] send the Interpreter to sumon the 5 Nations of Ind.ns to meet

his Excy here the [5] Day of 7br] next pursuant to yr Directions we

forthwt dispatch’d the Interpreter & order’d him to bring ym along wt

him & doubt not they will be here by ye time appointed off w.ch we have

acqted his Exc.y by our Letter of the 13th June w.ch we send by Capt.

Jacob [Vischer] who informs us yt he [cl.d] ye Letter to Capt. Deck who promised

to forwd it to his Exc.y We are a[ll] very great Sir Your most humble

Servts

Albany 3 Aug.st 1733

 

[?Jn.s Schuyler?]

[Rutger? Bleeker]

Stevanus Groesbeeck

Abraham Cuyler

Nicholaes Bleecker

Johan.s Lansingh Junr

Reyer Gerritse

[?] Renselaer

 

Sir

 

We are fav’d w.t yrs of ye [29th] [July] last w.ch yt rec’d Clark’s Letter of

[?] of ye Same attent’n w.ch we acknowledge to have rec.d & according to

Direct.ns in sd Ltr sent ye Interpreter to [Sumon] the five Nations of Ind.ns

off w.ch we acqt.d [his] Excy in our L.er of ye 13 [July]. We have also Enclosd a

L.er to Mr Clark acqting him off our Complyance w.th his Directions.

 

[Albany] 3d Aug.t 1733

 

Sir

Your most humble Servts

[?   ?] ye Com.rs of ye Ind.n Affairs

???

 

 

[0113] p. 57    [appears to return to 1723 here]

 

The Gov.r of Canada was Master whether they

should take up the Hatchet or not, that they

were under his Comand & oblidg’d to obey what

he Ordered. He doth Certainly Incourage those

Infidels in their attempts & outrages against

our Brethren & fellow Subjects of N England

their Condition is to be Lamented for an Indian

War is the most barbarous & dangerous we

ever heard off this County having the Smart

thereof in the   former War if not timely

Stop’d will be the Ruin of our neighbouring

Government and none can tell what our fate

will be for we dread to be Involv’ed into it if

so we are most miserable having no manner of

Defence & lye open to their mercy which is

nothing less then Cruelty

 

att a meeting the Com.es of Indian affairs in albany in Ev 8.7.1723

having Rec.d Intellingince that 50 Indians are gone from Canada to attempt

[some] of our neighbours in N England Resolved to Send an Express with ye

following letters

 

Psent

H: Holland

Peter v. Brugh

Ev.t Banker

John Collins

Ph: Livingston

Ev.t Wendell

Com.es

 

Albany the 8th Sept. 1723 at five

a Clock at Night

 

Gentlemen

Just now received the Surprising news

that fifty Indians from Canada were about 8 days

ag in the Lake at the Otter Creek w.t a design

to fall on Some of your out Settlements we think

it our Duty to acquaint you with this Intelli=

=gence without any Loss of Time, hoping that

you may be on your Guard at the ffrontiers to

frustrate the Barbarous & Bloody Designs

of these Inhumane Brutes whose mercy is

nothing but Cruelty we shall be glad to hear

that this Indian War may Soon Cease that

Christians may not be murthered and fall

as a prey to those Salvages, and that this

Intelligence

 

 

[0114] p. 57a

 

Intelligence may be of Service to the Publick

We beg you to Satisfie the bearer [for] this

Trouble and to favour us with what hopes you

have of Concluding a peace with the Eastern

Indians or Subdueing them we are Sorry for

what happened at Northfield & Rutland on

the 13 and 14th past which we Conclude has

been Comitted by that party we advised you

of in our Last the Express we Sent was Stop’d

by one Hezekiah Philips who told us Rutland

was Cutt of and Destroyed —

 

on his Maj.ys Service

To Coll.s Sam.l Patridge

or any Justice of peace

in N: England

 

 

[0115] p. 58

 

Albany 12th September 1723

 

May it please your Excellency

 

Our last to your Excel.cy was the 3d

Instant Since w.ch we received Intelligence that fifty

Eastern Indians from Canada were gone out fighting

towards N England and that their Design is against

those Settlements bordering on us we Sent Immedi=

=ately on the 6th [8th?] Instant thither an Express to

advise them to be on their guard; By what we

hear the Gov.r of Canada publickly Incourages

the Indians in this War against N England and

Supplies them with Provision and Ammunition

We can’t Imagine that he Should have any such

Directions from the ffrench King to Assist and

Incourage the Indians in time of Peace against

the Subjects of great Britain Since there is

such a strict and firm friendship & alliance

between the two Crowns it must be that the

Gov.r has another view then meerly to destroy

and take a few poor people we take leave

to trouble your Excel.y with our thoughts on this

head that by Ingageing his Indians in this

War, and if our Nations should be Engaged

in our part against them will in Course

Involve this Province in the Same neither

can

 

 

[0116] p. 58a

 

Can we See in what manner to avoid it, for we are

under some Apprehentions the french will not

leave us unmolested on purpose to get their view

in Stoping the Road for the far Indians to this

Province for they will leave no Stone unturn’d

to prevent their coming hither

We Submit to your Excellency whether it would

not be proper to write w.t the other Gov.rs on the

Continent to the Gov.r of Canada to make such

Resentments of his base actions in assisting the

Indians against N England as may be agreeable

to his Majesties honour and dignity and render

his subjects on the Continent secure and

peaceable in their Settlements His behaviour

we Conceive is Contrary to the true Intent and

meaning of the Treaties of peace and friendship

maintained by the two Crowns w.ch is humbly

Submitted to your Excel.ys better Judgment by

who are with Respect

 

Att a meeting of the Com.rs of ye

Indian affairs at albany the first

day of [September – crossed out] October 1723

 

Present

 

Henry Holland

Joh.s Cuyler

Peter van Brugh

Evert Banker

John Collins

Ph: Livingston

Joh.s Bleecker

Evert Wendell

 

Com.rs of Indian

Affairs

 

Whereas for Some time past no Indians

have been here from Canada as usual so that its

Concluded that there may be an Enterprize by the

Eastern Ind.ns & others against Some part of N England

w.ch is supposed they Intend to keep very private It

is thought fitt by this board fitt Ind.ns be sent to Canad[a]

to observe ye motions of those Ind.ns & pswade ye Cachnaw[ages]

& other ffrench Ind.ns not to join w.t the Sd Eastern Ind.ns in

this War their principal Sachims having Engaged to

keep their young Ind.ns at home and not suffer them

to assist the Sd Ind.ns against N England

 

 

[0117] p. 59

 

Att a meeting of ye Com.rs of Ind.n affairs

in Albany the 7th of October 1723

 

Present

 

Henry Holland

Ev.t Banker

Pet: v Brugh

Jn.o Collins

Ph: Livingston

Ev.t Wendell

Lawrence Claese

Interpreter

 

The Deputies of the five nations who have

been at Boston being Returned the

Com.rs bid them Welcome and Desire

them to acquaint us what has been

transacted there

 

Brethren

You Just now bid us welcome [said that – crossed out] and said

you were glad that we are returned in health and Desired

us that we might Inform you of the principal heads

what we have transacted with our Brethren at

Boston, it is what is Surprizeing to us that we Should

be desired to Repeat what passed between us, for Coll.

Jn.o Schuyler has [it all – crossed out] in writing [of – crossed out] all [the – crossed out] our transactions

and thought you were throughly acquainted with the

whole affair and that his Excel.y our Gov.r has an

acco.tt of it therefore we desire that [that- crossed out] the writing may

be sent for and Repeated to us and if it doth contain

more or less then what we have said we shall

Inform you of it

 

Com.rs answered

We are sensible you have good memories to retain

and repeat what you have said & Acted at Boston and as you

are great men who Represent yo.r Respective Nations

so we will not give Creditt to any thing but what you

your selves do inform us. neither is it honest to take

things upon trust. But we Christians do give most

Credit to what ye parties come to tell themselves As

Coll. Jn.s Schuyler [is gone – crossed out] went to Boston without the know=

=ledge of our Gov.r & of this Board so we are not to take

any thing from him relating yo.r Treaties at Boston

but desire you to repeat it to us that his Excel.y our Gov.r

may be acquainted w.t the Truth of yt affair

 

Answer

 

Since we find you are Enclin’d to hear from us what we

have done at Boston we Shall Inform you of it as

well as we are able

 

Brethren

 

 

 

[0118] p. 59a

 

Brethren

 

That in our Journey to Boston before we arriv’d

there several people were murthered by ye Indians

& when we came there the Govern.t offered us the

Hatchett of Warr by a Belt to fight against the

Eastern Indians whereon we took a Consultation

and thought proper to take Coll. Jn.o Schuyler

among us & desired his advice and Consent

how we should Act in that matter on which

he gave his Vote in behalf of the Govern.t of

New York to take up the hatchett of War & then

we all in behalf of our 8 [sic] Nations mutually Con=

=sented to take up each a hatchett of War ag.t

the sd Eastern Ind.ns, He took up one & then we

took up each one / after the Speaker had said

this he was Stop’d and they equivocated that

Coll. Jn.s Schuyler had not taken up the Hatchett of war /

Nevertheless we desired that the Govern.t of

Boston Should acq.t the Kings of great Bri=

=tain and ffrance what flame is kindled by reason

of this Ind.n War It is not reasonable they should

suffer any of their plantations to be in war and

they at the same time in peace in Europe That

they might Speedily order that this War should

Cease on wch they gave a belt of Wampum and

what answer they did receive [might be – crossed out] that we

might be acquainted therewith next year

They desired us not to disswade any of our young Men

from going to War ag.t the Eastern Ind.ns who are En=

=clined to go out which we promised & before we

departed from Boston 6 Men of our Nations went

out in 2 Troops ag.t the Sd Ind.ns That when we

go out a fighting we shall be provided w.t ammu=

=nition from Coll. Jn.o Schuyler at Albany and

when we bring a Scalp he is to pay us the premium

of £100 for Each

After the Ind.ns were w.t drawn Hen.’k ye Ind.n In=

=form’d this Board yt ye 8 Nations have not acted any

thing at Boston without the Consent & Approbati=

=on of Coll. John Schuyler

 

 

[0119] p. 60

 

Co.ll John Stoddard

Albany the 14th October 1723

 

Sir

We have Received yours of the 11th Instant where=

=by perceive that a number of 60 or 80 Ind.ns attacqued 2 small

Forts at Northfield that morning, we are Concerned for the

Loss of the Men they have killed and other Mischief they

have Done, You are pleased to Intimate that if a number

of the 6 Nations together with Some of the River Indians

were dispatch’d might probably arrive at Otter Creek

before the Enemy reach there and be capable of doing

Service, We are of Opinion that if 80 or 90 Indians of the

Sd Nations were in Town and had Canoes provisions

and Ammunition Ready and Immediately dispatch’d

might probably do some service, but as here are not

about four or five young Indians; the Sending to their

Settlements would take up so much time in their

Coming hither and getting ready for such an Enter=

prize that it would have no Effect, We hope your

forces may have defated the Enemy we Remain

with Respect               Sir

 

Your humble Servants

was Sign’d

Henry Holland

Joh.s Cuyler

Evert Bancker

Philip Livingston

Evert Wendell

John: Collins

Joh: Bleecker

 

 

[0120] p. 60a

 

Att a meeting of the Comissioners

of the Ind.n Affairs in Albany the

14th Day of October 1723

 

Present

 

Henry Holland

Joh.s Cuyler

Evert Bancker

John Collins

Ph: Livingston

Joh.s Bleecker

Evert Wendell

 

Esq.rs

Com.rs

 

Taquajanott one of the Sachims of the Mohoggs

and two young Ind.ns of that Castle being in Town to

whom this board Communicated that they had

rece.d a Letter from N England dated the 11.th Instant

by w.ch they are advised that a number of 60 or 80

Indians attacqued two Small forts at Northfield

that morning that they wounded two men and

its feared three or four are killed they were

firing at the Garrisons when the Express came

away It is proposed in said Letter that if a num=

ber of the Six Nations together with some of

the River Ind.ns were dispatched Immediatly

they might probably arrive at the mouth of

the Otter Creek before the Enemy reach that

place and be capable of doing Service we now

demand your opinion in that affair whether

it can probably be Effected that is propounded

in said Letter

The Ind.ns say that they can’t give a direct

answer but they are going to their Castles and

will acquaint their people with what this

board told them

 

 

[0121] p. 61

 

Oct.r 19

 

Albany the 19th: October 1723.

 

May it please Your Excel.y

We have been honoured with your

Excel.ys Letter of the 13.th Ultimo: before Receipt wher

of we were Satisfied that the Story about Rutland

was false, but by the Enclosed Letter of Coll. Stoddard

we hope your Excell.y will be Convinced that ye Indians

on the 11th Instant did attack two Small forts att

Northfield in N England not far from Rutland

they kill’d 3 or 4 Men and wounded two and were

firing at sd fforts when the Express came away w.ch

are not at above 50 or 60 Miles distante from the Settle=

ments of this County, so that this Ind.n War is

approaching us w.ch creates a terrour in many of

our Planters who are under great apprehensions

of danger, their fears are not without some reason

for the Ind.ns from Canada in the late Wars have

committed several murders & barbarities upon

many of his Majesties Subjects in this County

when there was more dependence [up – crossed out] on our Indians

then there is at present. We are much concerned that

your Excel.y is not pleas’d to agree in our Opinions

we humbly psume to Confirm what we Intimated

in

 

 

[0122] p. 61a

 

In our former of being apprehensive that this County

is in great Danger to be drawn into this dangerous

War, it may probably soon be bent this way, if so it

is what we Conjecture the Gentlemen of our neighbour=

=ing Gover.nt aim at to save themselves & leave us a

Sacrifice to Defend their quarrel, and its well known

to the world this County is not able to make any

Resistance, all can be done is for the planters to

leave their Settlements and retire to an open

unfortified place this Town of Albany w.ch can end

but in the ruin of many families

As Coll.o John Schuyler has made so bold a Step

as to take up the hatchett of War against ye Eastern

Ind.ns in behalf of your Excel.ys Govern.t at Boston

as your Excel.y may perceive by the Enclosed minutes

and Confirm’d by several trusty Sachims to be [?}

by w.ch Actions we may be drawn into this terrible

War w.ch is of the greatest Consequence to these

Fronteers, and tend to the utter Ruin & Destruc=

=ion of this County wherein our Lives & Fortunes

and what is dear to us is Concern’d what Orders

or Directions he may have had we are Strangers

to; with all due Regards to your Excel.ys Sentiment

of the Consequences of these late Transactions at

Boston at this Juncture amongst the Impending

dangers which threaten us, we can’t think we dis=

=charge our Duty without telling your Excel.y that

we are Convinc’d that nothing can Ensue these

Strain’d Actions of Coll.o John Schuyler but an Ind.n

War in the Bowels of your Excel.ys Govern.t & begg

leave to assure yo.r Excel.y that this Opinion of ours

does not proceed from any pussillanimous or nmanly

fears, but from a Just sense of the honour Interest

and safety of his Maj.es People & Govern.t under

your Excel.ys Administration & these Considerations

have

 

 

[0123] p. 62

 

have been motives in all Countries to the wisest

Nations, that had not he gone to Boston, the Chris

=tians Settlements of this Colony had not been in so

much danger, the Ind.ns having then taken up the

hatchett on their own accord that the Ind.ns now

say that we not they have made the War

That the ffrench now have their aim in our Ind.ns

going to war against the Eastern Ind.ns upon w.ch

they are assured as well as we yt the far Ind.ns will

not come to trade w.t the Inhabitants of this Province

during such War

Inclosed is also a minute of the first Instant

when we thought fitt for his Majesties Service to

send two trusty Ind.ns to Canada to observe the

motions of the Ind.ns there that Coll.o Jn.o Schuyler

sent two belts w.t those Ind.ns unknown to us at that

time will Induce the Eastern Ind.ns to believe yt

he & we go hand in hand, it not being Impossible

that our Ind.ns may discover that they were with

the Com.rs

That Philip Schuyler & John Groesbeeck are

gone to Canada [to – crossed out] w.t a pass from the Gov.r of Boston

as is Reported to Redeem prisoners, w.t our best

respects to your Excel.y we take leave to subscribe

our selves

May it please your Excellency

Your Excel.ys most Obedient & most

humble Servants

Henry Holland

Joh.s Cuyler

Evert Bancker

Philip Livingston

John Collins

Joh.s Wendell  Joh Bleecker

Evert Wendell

 

Cornelis Cuyler is gone in Company with the three french men to Canada

as is said to recover his Debts

 

 

[0124] p. 62a

 

River In

Att a meeting [of ye Com.rs – crossed out] of ye

Com.es of the Indian Affairs in

Albany the      october 1723

 

[Remainder of page is blank]

 

 

[0125] p. 63

 

Att a meeting of the Com.es of the

Indian Affairs in Albany the

Nov.r 1723

 

[Remainder of page is blank]

 

 

[0126] p. 63a

 

Att a meeting of the Com.rs of

the Indian Affairs in Albany

the 17th day of November 1723

 

Present

Henry Holland

Johan.s Cuyler

Peter v: Brugh

Evert Bancker

Philip Livingston

Johnn.s Bleecker

Evert Wendell

 

Com.rs

 

The two Indians who the Com.rs sent to Canada

on the first of October being returned sometime

since to Enquire what news they could hear there

Concerning the Indian War with N England And told

them they have given some Relation of it at

their arrival but Lourence Claese the Interpreter

being in Town were desired to repeat what they

heard and saw in Canada

That after they were Engaged by the Com.rs to

go to Canada Coll.o John Schuyler gave them a

Belt of Wampum to bring the following Message

to the Cachnawage Kanighnoghquadee and

Rondaxisthree Indian Castles in Canada to tell

them in the name of the Governmt of New York

& Boston & the Six Nation’s desiring them to

lay down the Hatchett of War against N England

to use and Cultivate the Road from Canada

hither and trade as Usual and if any weeds or

Stumbling blocks ly in the way should be

removed and laid aside and desired them to

come to this place

When they arriv’d at Cachnawage the sd Indians

found but three Sachims there to whom they

Comunicated the above Message who told the said

Messengers that the other Sachims were gone a

hunting and their young men were gone to War

w.ch they had not Communicated to them till

they were ready to go and without their order

and Could not give a Direct answer now and

would acquaint the other Sachims and since the

Season of the year is to far advanced they

can

 

 

[0127] p. 64

 

Can not come now and gave a String of Wampum

w.ch the Messengers have delivered to Coll. John

Schuyler

 

Att a meeting of ye Com.rs of the

Indian Affairs in Albany the

10th day of Novem.r 1723

 

Present

 

Henry Holland

John.s Cuyler

Pieter v Brugh

Evert Bancker

Philip Livingston

Johan.s Bleecker

Evert Wendell

 

Com.rs

 

Whereas this Board is Credibly Informd

that the ffrench at Canada or the Indians in Alliance

with them are in Actual War with our friends and

Brethren in N England have lately sent several

Belts of Wampum to the Upper and Remote

Nations of Indians to Invite them to come to

Canada early the next Spring as soon as the trees

begin to bud to assist the Eastren Indians for

carrying on the s.d War the Com.rs are of Opinion

that if these Messages have the desired Effects

of the ffrench may be of dangerous Consequence

to his Maj.es Subjects of N England and be a

motive to draw the Sd far Ind.ns from trading

w.t the Inhabitants of this Province w.ch has

been Endeavour’d to be promoted at a Considerar

=ble Expence of the publick This board are

therefore of Opinion that Lourence Claese the

Interpreter be forthwith dispatch’d with a

Belt of Wampum to the Sinnekes Country & there

to get two trusty Indians to go to the far Ind.ns

w.t a Message as mention’d in his Instructions

here underwritten

By the Com.rs of the Ind.n Affairs at Albany

Instructions for Lourence Claese the Interpre=

=ter to the Sinnekes Country

Whereas we are Informed that the ffrench

of Canada or the Indians in Alliance with them

have lately sent several Belts of Wampum

to

 

 

[0128] p. 64a

 

to the upper & remote Nations of Indians to

Invite them to Come to Canada early the next

Spring as soon as the trees begin to bud to assist

the Eastern Indians in Carrying on the War —

against our Brethren of N England w.ch we have

good Grounds to give Credit to and may be of dan=

gerous Consequence to his Majesties Subjects

in those parts

You are therefore hereby Required & Com=

=manded to go from hence w.t all Speed to the

Sinnekes Country taking for your assistance

& Company a trusty Indian from the Mohoggs

Country who shall be paid by us

Att your arrival at the Sinnekes Country you

are to acquaint the Sachims there or as many

as you know to be true to his Maj.es Interest

that you are sent by us who represent his Excel.y

Gov.r Burnet here, to Inform them that we

have received certain Intelligence that the

ffrench at Canada have sent several Belts of

Wampum to our and their friends and allies

to come to Canada early [illeg. crossed out] next Spring

to assist the Eastren Ind.ns in the War against

our Brethren of N England that you have a

Belt of Wampum w.ch you are to show them

and to the other Nations as you pass by and

that you are directed to get two trusty & faith=

ful Ind.ns and to acquaint them w.t the above

Intelligence adding that as they [are – crossed out] have Ingrafted

and made themselves a Nation to the other Six

they are Esteem’d and accepted as Such that

these belts lately sent them is only a Bravado

of the ffrench & an Envious design to keep them

from coming to trade hither because Goods are

to be had here on much easier terms then they

can afford them having none of their own Manu=

=factory fitt for their use; and that Goods are more

plenty

 

 

[0129] p. 65

 

plenty & Cheaper now then Ever they had them

we having had good success this last Summer

& several Ships from Europe laden w.t Goods

That we have an Entire peace here and that

the unfortunate War between our Brethren

of N England and the Eastern Ind.ns will soon be

laid aside & a [solid?] peace Concluded the Gov.r

of Canada having sent Messengers / who are

gone through this City / to Boston w.t orders

to make a peace in behalf of the Eastern Ind.ns

So that the said far Nations may be assur’d yt

the Road from their several abodes throug the

Six Nations will always be kept clean & the

Covenant they made be kept Inviolable by us

& the Six Nations, to give them assurance to

be kindly received & well treated here & that

we hope to see many of their Nations here

the next Summer

You are to Enjoin the sd two Messengers to

pswade as many of the sd far Ind.ns as they can

to trade at this place; and to come in Company

wt them, and that at their Return they Shall

be pd. for their Departure from the Sin=

=nekes Country Given under our hands in

Albany this 18th of November in the tenth year

of his Maj.es Reign A.o D.o 1723

 

was Sign’d

 

Henry Holland

Joh.s Cuyler

Pieter van Brugh

Evert Bancker

Philip Livingston

Joh.s Bleecker

Evert Wendell

 

 

[0130] p. 65a

 

Att a meeting of the Com.rs of the Ind.

Affairs in Albany y.e 21th day of nov. 1723

 

psent

 

Henry Holland

Peter van Brugh

  1. Banker

Ph: Livingston

John Bleecker

Joh.s Wendell

  1. Wendell

 

The Commis.rs haveing on the 30th ultimo desird

the Indians Liveing at Schaahkook & places adjacent

to come before them in pursuance whereof thirty two of

appeard before this Board to whom was made the following

Speech

 

Children

The Reason why we sent for you at this time is to

Let you know that we are Surprizd to hear that your

people have no Settled place of abode, but go Stragling &

Scatter one from another, and do not Shelter your selves

under the tree of peace & frindShip Long Since planted [by – crossed out]

at Schaahkook under whose Shadow you promisd to Live &

dye, this misfortune we Impute to your having but

few Sachims, wherefore we thought proper that five or

Six of your wisest & Leading men Should be appointed

as Sachims over you to keep you together and that you do

not Stragle from under the Shadow of yt. tree of frindship

We are Informed by Indians who we sent to

Canada to observe y.e motions of ye french & Indians there

that they mett ten Indians and Eight Squas of your nation

in the Lake going thither we want to know what

mov’d them to Leave their Native Country, we propose yt you

do Joyn with us in sending for them & for those who are

gone from you to Canada to Come back to their Setlements

 

The Indians answerd

Fathers

As you said just now there has been a tree of frindship

Planted at Schaahkook which is there Still. under whose

Shadow we Intend to Live & dye. our & your ancestors livd

[amicable together and did Eatt of one meat when we had

cut one slice we handed the knife over to them to Eat,

we do Still presist to do the like with you and are Resolved

 

 

[0131] p. 66

 

to Stay in our native Country at Schaahkook those who are gone

to Canada did not acquaint us with their design and do

not know what reason they had to go thither, we desire you

to beleeve that if the Gov.r of Canada Invites us to go &

Live there & would give us Land we Should not go but

Stay here in this plentifull Country —

Our Nation that did Live & Shelter themselves under

the tree of peace & of frindship at Schaahkook were very numerous but

are now few in number. we have brought you Some

vinison the fruits of our plentifull Country as a present wch

we desire you to accept from our hands as a token of our

Loyalty.

What you have proposed of appointing Some

Sachims among us. and of Sending messengers to Canada

to fitch back those who are gone to Live thither we cant

give you an answer to that a[t] psent but Refer it till

to morrow morning.

 

Albany ye 22.d novembr 1723

The Schaahkook Indians answer to the Com.rs –

 

Fathers                        Those Indians of our nation who went Lately to Canada

are gone thither with an Intent to Stay there for before

their departure they Committed Robberies at Saraghtogue

and do think that it will be but fruitless to send for ym.

The tree that was planted at Schaahkook is grown

to a vast hight under whose Shadow we have livd plentifully

but of Late it has Lost its principall nourishment

so that the Roots begin to be bare. for we have no but litle

Land to plant on and that is a very barren soil So yt.

the Ears of Corn grow very Small and the Inhabitants

there do anoy us in our quiet Possession of yt Land

and Desire we may be Redressd give atsring [a string] of wampum

 

 

[0132] p. 66a

 

As we have but litle Land at Schaahkook we do

propose that part of our number shall live there and

part at Sinchijack where is good Land & a plentifull

Country for [g— – crossed out] hunting give a String of wampum

We have some of our arms & hatchett here that are

out of repair which we desire ye fathers to gett Repaird

for us to Enable us to go ahunting gave a String of

wampum

Since you have proposd that some men of

our number Should be appointed as Sachims & Leading

men over ye Rest we Leave it to you to nominate them

 

The Com.es answerd

We have heard your Speach and Shall first tell you

that we Considerd who to appoint for your Sachims &

Leading men and have thought fitt to nominate

Six Including the two old Sachims viz. nanratakietam

aspenoot, Wapelanrie, Kakaghsanreet, Mashequant

and akamsomett. whom we Exhort you to Obey in all

their Lawfull Comands and on the decease of any these Six

we have thought proper that nansasant Shall Succeed

in the Room of the Deceased

We think it absolutely necessary that you send

for those of your people who are gone to Canada to Return

home and those who have Committed faults Shall be

forgiven

The Inhabitants at Schaahkook that do anoy

you in your quiet Setlement of your Land Shall be

directed to Let you Injoy the same peaceably, that

you may reap ye Comforts of the Shadow of the tree of

peace & frindship. you may do your pleasure to setle part

of your people at Sinkhajick for [your – crossed out?] better hunting

We Shall order your guns & hatchetts to be mended & do Return

you thanks for the psent of vinison. to Enable you to hunt

for your Selves we give you 20 ld powder 40 ld Lead a Barl

Strong beer a keg with Rum to drink the King’s health [& a keg – crossed out] for Each of

 

[0133] p. 67

the sachims a Shirt and for ye old Sachim nanratakelam

a Blanket & one d.o for Waleghlanret

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